Quick side note regarding:

Now I know what to watch on my day off!

Don’t judge it by season 1, when it was still finding its feet. It’s worthy, past whatever scruffy shabbiness of early season 1.

… fairly obviously not. LOL. Key piece of evidence, I’m still alive.

Both accounts use long, structured, paragraphs with somewhat of a scholarly tone. Both often use unsolicited hyperlinks for definitions or references in their paragraphs. Both have an interest in Star Trek.

… Up to that point, I started freaking out, thinking I maybe look a bit like one of their alts. lol. yikes.

… Mushrooms and grass are free, growing all around… So… presumably you mean you have to pay to be touched?

Reminds of when I got dumped, and went out with an air rifle and shot a couple birds (would have been 3, but I missed with the last slug I found). Utterly out of character. I wonder (and doubt) if they (at least yet) likewise feel greatest remorse for their weakest moment [of “hurt people hurt people”].

… And reminds of [in Babylon5] when Lennier had a moment of fail, out of character, ran from saving Sheradin, … and How D’lenn handled it, sympathetic to how we are each susceptible to such moments of fail and we let our worst overtake our better.

Still… another’s capacity for such wise sympathy (or empathy), is no excuse for them.

[Edit: … After being reminded of the specific situation this time though… I strongly doubt that’s even their weakest moment of hurting people; strongly doubt that’s a mere case of a rare moment of letting their worst get the better of their better… given what was initially done (and in which direction!!!). Wardrobe not big enough for all those skeletons [that I imagine, I hope, merely metaphorically].]

Confluence of stress burnout, and character traits.

Is worthwhile to explore both the psychological and societal precursors to such.

… Probably worthwhile looking into narcissism too. Albeit many perspectives on the topic, there are common themes and distinct insights to catch, that are sometimes difficult to really have sink in, so distinct and alient an umwelt exists behind the contrastingly “normal” facade. Until blow-out.

… Probably worthwhile looking into autism too. Maybe AuDHD specifically (whom are the majority). The absence of the socially normativising stuff, from the different neurophysiology, almost like we’re having to do all the work of the cerebelum, the gpu, in the forebrain, the cpu, with the neuronal journeys having more finegrain, less pruning, and fewer main reinforced trunks, and so experience far more of the intricate detail all the way there, and all the way back… it’s not just exhausting in itself, the extra brain power required for all the meta-navigation, only having the intricacies of side roads of working-it-out-now, none of the popular motorways of presumption, but also exhausting from the resultant clashes, and the cassandra syndrome, putting up with a majority who dismiss what you see in preference for their shared reality, regardless of how well it can be seen otherwise… no judgement on who’s right or wrong there, only a consideration of what it’s like, having to live like that. … I can imagine that adds a whole other dimension of burnout to be experienced. And then when having found something that can accommodate you, avails a space where you’re finally allowed the control you need to soothe your fine-grain sensitivities from that different awareness frequency range, gives you that peace, and then that area expands back into the social space, where there’s still a different umwelt clash, each modality appearing stupid to the metrics of the other modality. And in the absence of support nor aptitude in that other’s stubborn paradigm, for your own stubborn paradigm, whether you try to brashly persist in your integrity, or you try to bend to fit, it exhausts, either way. And then melt-downs and rage-attacks and so on can happen. Especially when got so close to it, and identified with it, this new thing you made that availed you such grace, that could save the world, that’s part of you… and then these ungrateful swine come along and threaten it!? Yeah, I can see how such blow-outs could come about.

Especially bad if one has both autism and narcissism. The narcissism would preclude their any will whatsoever to self improvement. They’d have total aversion to accountability. No real introspection, and thus no real regret or apology is possible. Only pretence. If even that. Sometimes the grandiosity slips out of the mask of even the most covert narcissists (and community narcissists, martyr hero narcissists, vulnerable narcissists, etc). Narcissists, especially the true ones, where it has become their personality, and not just a rare incidental moment or rarer trait, in having itpped past the point of introspection, into delusional non-reality in fantasy love of their self image, no longer able to distinguish other people as other people, seeing them only as means to their own ends, and lingering in that, growing more machiavelian, psychopathic, even sadistic and demented. And in a way, a bit of a saving grace for us all, if the autism’s louder than the socially manipulative covert machiavellianisms. Better the devil we can see [because they lack the social aptitude to hide], than the devil we cannot see [because they hide among us, pretending to be the paragons of virtue].

As in not just honest ones for robustness against outages, but, sock puppets?

Oh! Is that maybe why my network choked to a mere double figure kb crawl after I posted about it [~ and pasting the diatribe for posterity, and so others wouldnt have needed visit that]?

I just presumed it was the dozen distro ISO I was downloading at the time too, in a distroholic relapse.

… I’m not really paying attention to all this drama.

Reminds of:

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/korean-outfit-hosting-1-44mb-game-development-contest-to-honor-the-floppy-disk-entrants-must-confine-entire-fileset-including-resources-engine-and-library-to-miniscule-storage-format

Floppy may use FAT, but stays slim.

The world could benefit from re-watching Babylon5

Thankyou for your response. However you’re responding to a comment encouraging curiosity and questions, without any curiosity and questions, about which, I have much curiosity and many questions.

You never stopped to ask if those who tell you these conspiracy theories about Tesla & Co. have their own agenda.

1. What led you to this determination that I had never done that?
2. Is that to imply that having their own agenda means their accusations are false or something?
3. Maybe you missed it earlier, but the term “conspiracy theories” has already been ousted as having the effect of dissuading scrutiny [e.g. of the guilty]. Is this your intention? Or is this satire? Or is this simply the first time you’ve encountered the idea and had not yet entertained the possibility?
4. What “conspiracy theories” about “Tesla & Co”? Is that referring to the Tesla company owned by Musk? Or about Nikola Tesla?
5. Your opening assertion that could have been a question, is a mite muddied and confounding. Did it seem straight forward to you when you asked it? Upon re-read, have you noticed these issues I’ve raised? And that seems fair?

For example selling books or some useless “apparatus”.

1. Is this mere speculative conjecture? [Presumably] Not knowing who “tell you these conspiracy theories”, you therefor also know not what else they’re doing.
2. I know this is just an example, but, does it have to be so heavily weighted, leaning to confirm your conjecture, in how they’re “useless”? Aware and intended that was a poison seed? (~ A fallacy I succumb to making often too.).
3. Again, wondering if you think this is of relevance… like a refutation hinges on this side criteria. This is intended merely as a invite to consider the circumstantial, right? And not as if this refutes the possibilities beyond all valid and sound consideration?
4. Would be nice if we could get access to the suppressed technologies. Or even if those who write books on such topics could even make their print fees back. Most who speak on this topic are not selling anything. books, useless apparatus, nor let alone the emancipatory technologies themselves. Those most likely to first encounter, I imagine would be the loudest, and thus also, the most likely to be managed opposition shills. The quiet empathic sort, tend not want the limelight, merely want the benefit to the world, and that’s an easy loud contrast to look out for… who are the fevered narcissistic egos who want the attention, who loudly peddle the bombast and future-fake their way to get all the hopium hopped up in your minds. In a sea of misinformation, everybody’s a shill, for sure. But that does not mean one can then evade that problematic situation by proclaiming to have found the one true truth. Experience teaches that’s much much more likely a sign you’ve been duped, rather than have genuinely found the one true truth. Like the old saying goes “listen to those who seek the truth, run from those who claim to have found it.”. Well, I’m not going to do just quite that. That’d leave those who claim to have found the truth, both in their curated echo chamber, and, risk spreading that arrogant presumption and epistemological fail to others. Like the scene in Akira: “It must be a trap.” “Then why are you still going!?” “I want to find out what kind of a trap it is”. All that to go the long way around to asking… Would you not want to scrutinise books on that topic, and test apparatus, rather than just dismiss it off hand in presumption to know they’re bunk because presumably they’re up to no good, just in it for the money or fame or whatever thing besides honest interest? [~ and not use that presumptive dismissiveness to extend to a non-sequitur adhominem character assassination and transitively dismissing whole fields of research?]

And no, citing some fallacies or abusing the thesaurus doesn’t make the things you say sound any smarter.

1. That’s fun. It’s also irrelevant. IDGAF how it makes the things I say sound. I renounced that manipulative crap 24 years ago, when I renounced my career in advertising. Much more interested in the epistemology these days, and the search for truth, and pegagogy. So, fun as that gaslighting is, in attempting to dissuade having fallacies pointed out, I’ll carry on pointing out fallacies. If it stings, that’s your ego, been deceiving you, keeping you from truth, preferring it’s own delusional comfort. If ignorance is bliss, give me agony.
2. Fallacies… some noted, even in that brief 3 sentences… Ad hominem, genetic fallacy, appeal to motive, strawman, dismissal, poisoning the well, appeal to cynicism, false dilemma, and likely more yet. Any fallacies you can spot I’ve made? Very eager to have what’s in my shadow shown to me. Would not want to be ignorantly going around as one of those messers mucking up society, deluded, thinking my thinking’s sound when it’s not even valid.
3. Was this even a concern? Like, was it implied anywhere that citing fallacies or “abusing the thesaurus” were making the things I say sound any smarter? Just wondering: why even bother with that ad-hominem arguing tone with apparent implied accusation?
4. When I was 14, after learning my verbal iq’s only 90 (~ annoying small apperture for my 180 visual iq, trying say the pictures that say a thousand words), I made the foolish error of thinking that if I expanded my vocabulary, I’d be able to communicate my ideas better. Alas, much like how the Socratic method fails in the face of the stubbornly ignorant who refuse to even entertain and answer questions, this notion of an extended vocabulary helping communication fails in the face of those who not only do not share your vocabulary, but have no interest in expanding theirs with curiosity. Not that you were owed an explanation there, but, I thought that might help expand conception of the possibilities beyond the reactive judgemental. We’ve each highs and lows in our aptitude profile. Many aptitudes can be tested. Not just the three that comprise iq. Also emotional inteligence, wisdom, spiritual aptitude, interpersonal aptitude, intrapersonal aptitude, philosophical aptitude, and on and on it extends for dozens.

And further, beyond that, in general… Are you now (or even, were you, at the time) aware of the fallacies here?

And how it wasn’t really on topic, dealing with the substance, and instead was derailing from the substance, on to talk about me?

Insidiously, these ad-hominem reflexes sneak up on us, pulling us down Graham’s Hierarchy of Disagreement. As does mere arguing tone. Or even mere contradiction, without substantive reasoning. Just escalates the combative fear that impedes access to our more considerate, critical, creative forebrains, keeping us in “fight or flight”. That dumb may work for running away from a sabre tooth tiger, but it does not help us navigate nuanced social intricacies and technological complexities. Alas, I’ve yet to find reliable ways in text that helps encourage and invite people to that considerate exploratory headspace, out of the induced certainties that keep us stuck making a mess obliviously, not learning. “What an opportunity to learn, once I learned to learn” – The Man From Earth. What more am I still behind that cruel horizon, where the key that opens the box, is locked in the box? What more ways out there to help people sublimate out of the induced ignorance prison? The exploration continues on, at least for those who’ve begun.

And of course, merely pointing out a fallacy, or accusing of some personal trait, is no refutation, no confirmation either has the truth. We’re all blind men with another piece of the elephant. Naysaying’s cheap, but sharing your interpretation of the whole from your part, while almost certainly wrong, does help us get closer to the truth.

The point remains… I welcome the questions. Heh.

It’s a very different feel… when starting to question again… after long time induced to arrogance and not realising it had atrophied curiosity and the questioning muscles. Shifting back from the closed “I get it”, to the open “what more is there to get?”. And the more new stuff learned, the easier it is to accidentally climb back up on Dunning-Kruger’s certainty peak. Vigilance, the price we must eternally pay. Keep learning more yet, and it’s almost inevitable to fall into impostor syndrome, as becoming aware how much more there is to learn, and starting to doubt your abilities, especially as others bring their piece of the picture, a piece you didn’t have. Why didn’t you have? Must be because you’re of inferior capability. So goes the subconscious sabotage. At least, in those who’re not so arrogant and ignorant that they can even entertain the new information. This gets much easier to do once no longer in naive realism (the cognitive condition of believing your beliefs; of believing your perceptions are true reality itself).

“Leave no stone un-turned in the search for truth.” … did I miss any?

[PS, sorry this got long, but that’s very often how brandolini’s law [multiplied by cunningham’s law] goes, especially with a visual thinker; especially with an autistic intp on their “special interest”].

Questions…? Go for it…

Lub me some curiosity and the Socratic method.

[Edit: Oh wait… Re-reading what that’s responding to, that seems non-sequitur of some sort, since I was already lamenting the absence of curiosity and genuine (not mere rhetorically dismissive) questions.]

Is this just incredulous scoffing?

Any genuine curiosity?

Things like (just off the top of my head) Lutein, Zeaxanthin, Carotines, Retinol, Creatine, and countless more are reported to have helped restore eyesight, along with many techniques, and conversely, in some cases, sudden blindness has been suspected caused by nutrient uptake blockers (including GLP1s), starvation, stress, and extreme diets. So, yes, diet very much can have a huge impact on improving or worsening sight. … I’m struggling to comprehend where the incredulity in this could come from.

Fascinating world out there to explore, at our fingertips, still, despite efforts to censor and control narratives to protect wealth extraction maximisation, as the rules demand of the corporation, to “protect the shareholders”.

Fun tip, add “ayurveda” to health/biology websearches. For just one way to get out of the corporate curated bubble, to a perspective that lets you out of “cannot see the forest for the trees”.

I’m not opposed to laser eye surgery. It’s just another example of an oz of prevention worth a lb of cure, and too often too soon reaching for the “cure” of a surgeon’s knife (so to speak), when there are gentler, perhaps less acutely profitable, “alternative” ways, that have no monied incentive to promote.

The downvotes and replies to this have me wonder if the agnotological assault we’re all under, is winning. The level of epistemology expressed… Where are we on Graham’s Hierarchy of Debate with that? Mostly Adhominem? The irony, given the content already expressing in passing the awareness of “how much we can be deceived and made wholly obliviously ignorant”, to have had such responses expressing such oblivion, doing the very thing. I didn’t want to be that right. Maybe my fault, and I should have been more positive in what I manifested, right? Heh.

… And to think… I used to work in the agnotology industry. In “advertising or marketing” (before renouncing it when Bill Hick’s saved me). I used to be one who would easily dupe people (“just doing my job”). It’s oft corroborated true what they say: It’s easier to fool someone than to convince them they’ve been fooled.

… especially with the UptonSinclairian duress… (“It’s easier to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon him not understanding it.”), that we’re all under, to some extents, in this perversely incentivised economy.

Yup. Reminds me of my ol’

Do you have spaceships yet? And the reassurance no one is trying to take yours because they have their own too? Spaceships for everybody.

with the implication being, with the prolific provision of the emancipatory technologies, even the richest are better off.

Recently, something was pointed out to me that made me realise, even if in some grand Robin Hood style remedy to the vast economic iniquity, instead the money just went “*poof*”, even then, even they[and us all]'d still be better off. The economy would adjust, and even they would have more buying power, the monopoly’s “anti-competitive” brakes would be taken off the economy, and the target would be taken off their back.

… But can you imagine the psychology in the psycho oligarch class… the game theory that would be spinning in their grand-narcissistic delusion of superiority and their absence of caring… How many of them would still be foolishly thinking “but if I were the only one who did not lose all their wealth, I would have total dominion over the world! Muhahahahah”!.

Oh to get each and all out of the malconditioned short-looping separationist win delusion, and into the longer now.

Great comment.

Refreshing contrast to the murmuring misdirections away from the man behind the curtain as if he didn’t exist.

“Wealth of nations” springs to mind, and how much the Rothschild empire was worth in 1900…

Some seem not even looking to the likes of the BIS, or… or even to any power players, other than those puppets that are loudly presented to them.

… Like (if this isn’t too much of a poetic mangle of metaphors) the fish oblivious to water, they’re kept degrees of separation away from realising the condition and context of the water, like that they’re in a polluted sea of misinformation where everybody’s a shill, and that flocking together in confirmation biased shoals echo-chambering to boost confidence in naive-realist stubbornly-held narratives isn’t sound epistemology to help them help the situation. Could be time to climb on out of the water and evolve.

Ugly strawman to jump to, there.

Not the criteria.

We know the projection of the puppets.

Don’t fall for the panto.

Climb on out of Plato’s cave.

s/billionaire/trillionaire/

Yay. A strongman hero to save us.

:|

Like we’ve not had that ploy before.

Yup.

And in the 4 classes I’ve heard the spooks and crooks use, assets, agents, operators and architects, there are those above the agents like Epstein.

I say “above”. But, when looking to try see the top, it looks murky. … Sounds more like the bottom. Of a swamp. Such is kakistarchy. Ruled by the worst.