southsamurai (he/him/pronoun agnostic)

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  • I said it wasn’t inherently harmful.

    Second, if you’re going to stretch the word Theft to include murder and kidnapping/imprisonment, we’re both wasting time because we aren’t using the same language at all. Just let me know you’re standing on that principle and I won’t bother you again.

    That being said, with the normal usage of Theft, it really depends on what you take from whom, and how much as to whether harm is done.

    Secondary to that, even when there is harm from theft, it can still be justified. Me stealing a medication from a pharmacy certainly costs someone something, but if that’s the last ditch option when all else has failed, is it really a situation where the harm of the theft outweighs the harm of the broken society that made it necessary? While two wrongs don’t make a right, some wrongs preclude right in the first place.

    In that scenario, the harm is so heavily distributed via tax breaks and insurances that it might even be a benefit overall since without some theft as a reason to exist, there’s entire industries that wouldn’t exist. The individual theft is still a harm tp some link in the chain, but the chain itself is not harmed at all.

    Stepping back even further, what about stealing back? I paid taxes and monies into a broken system, thus me stealing necessary medication could be simply taking back what was taken from me in bad faith. Restitutional theft ain’t really theft, in other words.

    Again, I never said theft was never harmful, I said it isn’t inherently harmful.





  • Two factors, ignoring the sci-fi part of things.

    First, depending on armor levels, a slashing/chopping/cutting attack can be directed at places other than center of mass and be very effective. This gives you reach that you just can’t achieve while expecting to end a fight via thrusting. As a general thing, it’s referred to as defanging the serpent. You attack the parts that either hold your opponent’s weapon, or otherwise allow them to attack.

    This means in practice that someone doing standard thrust attacks can be at a major disadvantage unless they are significantly faster than their enemy.

    Second, even if you don’t defang the serpent, you can still attack the wrists, ankles, or arms from a better distance. You bleed the fucker out. This favors the kind of mobile, angular footwork you’ll see in some forms of sword fighting. Lunges are necessary to close distance inside of reach. At some point, you limit yourself to a single angle of attack. Depending on your training and physical capabilities, a straight lunge is one of the easiest attacks to avoid and counter.

    When it’s done with something that can also slash, it decreases your exposure and allows for some really nasty feints for sure, but you’ve still largely committed to a movement. Committing like that can be good or bad, but if you’re against someone that’s countering you from angles you can’t quickly pivot to, you end up in trouble.

    Now, the argument for spears against swords is absolutely a good one. Reach is king in most fights, no matter the weapon or lack thereof. Mass is often queen, though I really dislike gendering ideas like this. It’s just the frame of reference I was given back in the day, so it sticks in my head better.

    But, spears are not the best 1 on 1 weapon, at least not the usual spear with a long shaft. The shorter spears like assegi are fucking beast mode, though generally are used with a shield, and thus hard to properly assess for a thrust vs slash kind of comparison. Plus, while I have fucked with spears, including short spears, I don’t have anywhere near the actual sparring time in.

    Anyway, point is that the point is at the end of a long stick. That length is a lever. When that spear is side by side with other spears and a shield wall, you’re an idiot to run in with a sword.

    But when that spear is alone? It’s trivial to deflect and avoid. And I say trivial with the full meaning. It’s absurdly easy. You run into some guys that train with kingfu type spears that can make it way less easy, but then again, that’s not really the same weapon as you’d have if you taped a light saber to a big stick. They function in a different way than more rigid spears.

    Now, let it be known that, despite the user name, I have nowhere near as much time in with swords. I did okay, I’ve trained and sparred, but I was always more of a knife guy. A lot of the same principles apply, but stabby stabby only in knife use is vastly inferior to using the entire weapon as needed. Trying to use something like a Fairbairn Sykes dagger against a bowie is not going to end well unless you’re significantly better than the bowie guy. Different tools for different jobs, you dig?

    Now, I agree that the on screen jedi moves are absurdly inefficient. There’s people that have learned the stuff that was designed for the movies, and they get their asses handed to them if they try it sparring. Too many openings, too much wasted energy. None of it works unless you’re using the kind of extra light performance sabers that are built for it. The balance of the weapons aren’t right otherwise. Well, mostly. There’s footage of some of those folks using aggression and mobility to do quite well, but it’s still with unrealistic practice weapons.

    But if you had an actual light saber, you’d stay tight, keep things close and do controlled slashes, more akin to what you see in kenjutsu. Mind you, most kenjutsu is two handed, not single, so there’s only limited on screen stuff that makes for 1:1 comparison.

    Honestly, Dooku is the most realistic swordsman in the prequels.




  • I would have expected some kenjutsu/kendo type attacks over purely thrusting though.

    The light saber has the ability to be as good or better of a “slashing” weapon as a thrusting, despite the lack of curvature. It’s closer to a long sword than a saber in the way it would be used in the absence of sci-fi handwaving, but with the whole vibe of the Jedi being monkish, that Lucas pretty much ignored eastern blade fighting entirely, and samurai shit in particular is kinda weird. Like, Chinese jian styles are closer to what would work with a blade of the same size and general shape, and is just as cinematic as what got used in the prequels.

    But kenjutsu and iaido could make for seriously dramatic force mojo duels rather than expecting us to watch Yoda and Palpatine do acrobatics in complete opposition to their very centered and cerebral behavior in all other aspects.

    It isn’t even about realism to me, because it’s just wizards with swords fantasy set in space, not hard sci-fi. But I really would have expected more control, more precision, more internal mastery of their weapons.



  • I get you :)

    I’m able to separate art and artist very well in terms of what I’ll enjoy in my own life, but I’ll be damned if I would spend a dime to see that guy at this point.

    Even with him not having his day in court, a chance to counter the accusation in a useful way, I have little tolerance for that kind of thing. But, knowing how limiting it can be to have to wait until a court case happens to present anything publicly, I can’t make myself care if others are willing to pay money to see him.

    I totally believe the accusations. And, I tend to err on the side of giving preliminary belief to a victim, even while also insisting that the accused is only accused until all evidence is available. But in this case? Yeah, everything he was accused of is perfectly in line with things he’s said over his public life. He may well have evidence that those things weren’t illegal, and/or that they aren’t tortious enough to merit the lawsuit being found for the plaintiff.

    But that’s still only about the court side of things. He’s yet to deny doing some really fucked up shit to people. He’s even admitted some of it, claiming consent. And I don’t often kink shame. But in this case? No thanks. I wouldn’t be able to see him live without being aware I put money in his pocket. Hell, I had trouble just watching his most recent music videos. Couldn’t finish them. I still enjoy his older music and videos though. Like I said, I’m usually good at the art/artist duality. But if I had to replace what I have, I’d pirate it.

    Sorry again for my assumption btw. I really should know better