• Broadfern@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    It isn’t “fuck the [imperialist/authoritarian nation] government and its enforcers” for most people?

    • QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml
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      2 days ago

      Russia isn’t imperialist. Imperialism isn’t when invasion or when big country is bad

      Authoritarian is a useless pejorative as every nation that has been or currently is is “authoritarian”.

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        1 day ago

        How do you define imperialism if invading other countries with the same explicit intent to annex them isn’t it?

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          14 hours ago

          Russia has no colonies nor neocolonies, and doesn’t run their economy based on export of capital and plundering the surplus value of the global south, like the US and EU do.

          Imperialism is characterized by the following:

          -The presence of monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life.

          -The merging of bank capital with industrial capital into finance capital controlled by a financial oligarchy.

          -The export of capital as distinguished from the simple export of commodities.

          -The formation of international monopolist capitalist associations (cartels) and multinational corporations.

          -The domination and exploitation of other countries by militaristic imperialist powers, now through neocolonialism.

          -The territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers.

          The global north, the US and Europe included, uses this export of capital to super-exploit foreign labor for super-profits. It also engages in unequal exchange, where the global south is prevented from moving up the value chain in production, allowing the global north to charge monopoly prices for commodities produced in the same labor hours. Russia does not do this, it has a paltry sum of the world’s finance capital, and this is proven by just how low their nominal GDP is compared to their GDP adjusted to PPP.

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            9 hours ago

            If you pay attention to what Russia does internally and externally, Russia fulfills every one of those requirements except the last one (because they can’t, but they would be very happy too)

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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              1 hour ago

              Nope, not really. Let’s see:

              -The presence of monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life.

              Somewhat true domestically, Russia has many monopolies as a holdover from the socialist system. However, internationally, this isn’t true at all, only 4 of the top 100 companies in the world are Russian. Considering having monopolies on the world stage is necessary for imperialism, this is false for Russia.

              -The merging of bank capital with industrial capital into finance capital controlled by a financial oligarchy.

              Similar to the first one, somewhat true domestically, but internationally Russia only has one of the top 100 banks. Same as the first, this is therefore false.

              -The export of capital as distinguished from the simple export of commodities.

              Russia primarily exports raw materials and resources, so no, not at a significant scale. There’s more capital flight than export.

              -The formation of international monopolist capitalist associations (cartels) and multinational corporations.

              Again, Russia has no international monopolies, the closest is that they can make a lot of nuclear reactors. No.

              -The domination and exploitation of other countries by militaristic imperialist powers, now through neocolonialism.

              No neocolonialism is going on. Russia is annexing the 4 oblasts, but these are not colonies for Russia.

              -The territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers.

              Russia has no colonies nor neocolonies, no “territory” to claim.

              Overall, Russia likely would be imperialist if it was financially more developed and capable of imperialism, but it can’t because it isn’t.

        • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works
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          18 hours ago

          Cowbee means economic imperialism - using the resources / wealth of another country for yourself. So invading another country would not, by itself, be imperialism.

          I think this definition is a bit reductionist, but it’s a good starting point to ask ‘is this war for profit or some other reason?’.