You know, that 20000-30000 premium over ICEs does buy a lot of gas over lifetime. And I’d rather not rent computers on wheels which depend on random clouds.
What currency are you using for this comparison? Definitely not USD.
A Tesla Model 3 runs for about $40k. A Camry runs for about $35k. Or if we want to go down market a Nissan Leaf is about $30k and probably comparable to a $25k Sentra.
Similar trim levels of vehicles offered as both EV and gasoline powered show minimal difference. Compare the Ford F-150 Lariat in both the gasoline ($75k) and the EV versions ($79k). Or the new Lexus ES, where the EV ($49k) is actually cheaper than the hybrid ($51k).
And if you go into the used market, EVs are starting to hit that market in real numbers, too. Plenty of options for under $20,000, and a handful of options for under $10,000.
Cars are expensive. EVs generally are close to that already expensive price.
I’ve got a new Mitsubishi ASX 8 years (wow, time flies) ago without a cellular modem for some 17 kEUR, since we could’t get the 15 kEUR model. I could imagine an ICE car of that size goes for 20-25 kEUR these days.
An EV (not Chinese) without range anxiety (500+ km) and of about that size is probably 40-60 kEUR.
Since I cannot get anything new but a cloud-tied snitch on wheels I guess I need to buy used, or disable the cellular antenna.
You know, that 20000-30000 premium over ICEs does buy a lot of gas over lifetime. And I’d rather not rent computers on wheels which depend on random clouds.
What currency are you using for this comparison? Definitely not USD.
A Tesla Model 3 runs for about $40k. A Camry runs for about $35k. Or if we want to go down market a Nissan Leaf is about $30k and probably comparable to a $25k Sentra.
Similar trim levels of vehicles offered as both EV and gasoline powered show minimal difference. Compare the Ford F-150 Lariat in both the gasoline ($75k) and the EV versions ($79k). Or the new Lexus ES, where the EV ($49k) is actually cheaper than the hybrid ($51k).
And if you go into the used market, EVs are starting to hit that market in real numbers, too. Plenty of options for under $20,000, and a handful of options for under $10,000.
Cars are expensive. EVs generally are close to that already expensive price.
New ICE cars are just as much computers as EV’s are.
And mind me asking where you live where they are 20-30k higher?
I’ve got a new Mitsubishi ASX 8 years (wow, time flies) ago without a cellular modem for some 17 kEUR, since we could’t get the 15 kEUR model. I could imagine an ICE car of that size goes for 20-25 kEUR these days.
An EV (not Chinese) without range anxiety (500+ km) and of about that size is probably 40-60 kEUR.
Since I cannot get anything new but a cloud-tied snitch on wheels I guess I need to buy used, or disable the cellular antenna.
Must be comparing Hyundais to Lucids.
I guess we’re stuck with buying old ICE cars then
I thought you meant the ICEstapo and I was like “yeah, you’re almost magnitude of order off what they get paid”