“Take the Blue Pill and the gradual slide into fascism stops accelerating for four years while the current hellscape becomes the status quo, take the Red Pill and buckle the fuck up as we hyperspeed into fascism”
It is a kayfabe democracy. It has only oligarchical management, not democratic representation. No matter who wins the elections the policies are predetermined. Rooting for Kamala over Trump is no different than rooting for The Undertaker in Wrestlemania.
It was, yeah. The US was going to implode and decline no matter which person was appointed by your oligarchy. You didn’t vote for any of the corporate board members who control your society and government in November. You also didn’t actually have a choice, in kayfabe democracy the results are predetermined, much like all the elections in authoritarian carceral states.
No, I strongly disagree that Harris would have all DEI removed, all black history everything paused for the military, etc.
Harris was not going to push for more tax breaks for the ultra rich.
The project 2025 agenda was not going to be pursued under Harris.
You may not approve of the Harris agenda, but they are not remotely comparable except through an absolutist all or nothing lens.
Claiming they are the same is absurd.
You are not understanding what I am saying. You do not live in a democracy. Harris had no chance of winning because your elections are fake. That is what I mean by results are predetermined, just like Wrestlemania. The US oligarchs fixed the elections during redistricting years before the election took place. During the ridiculous run up to the event nothing you did mattered. You live in a authoritarian oligarchy.
I won’t deny the oligarchy thing, but I think it’s a pretty hot take that the election was predetermined.
Occam’s Razor… There are many other possibilities that seem more likely to me. Such as the Biden campaign floundering at the last second - which you could again argue was rigged, but once again, seems to be the less likely thing. You’re suggesting that many people would be in on this conspiracy and that ALL of them would stay quiet. All the thousands of regular citizens who participate in the election process would also have to stay quiet. I know some of those people - they are regular people living regular lives. You’re also supposing that this cohort of dishonest people would find it advantageous to spend a huge amount of resources on elections - it’s pretty incredible how much effort goes into it, and if they already knew what the outcome was going to be, I would think they would act differently (perhaps you argue “that’s the point, just to fool you”).
We start to paint the picture of a conspiracy to control the American people when they are already under control because of capitalism. Everyone would have been under government control regardless of the election outcome. So I don’t understand the supposed motivation for everyone working together to rig the election in Trump’s favor. There are oligarchs who this election result does not favor as well, so I don’t buy that it is just them pulling the strings. Oligarchs have influence no matter the administration, so why would they care to rig the election? Maybe a few of them would rig it to try to get power (see Musk), but it doesn’t make sense that they would all be working together to rig it.
So I don’t buy that the Biden and Kamala campaigns were in on it, and I don’t buy that election workers were in on it.
Those who didn’t vote, or voted third party, due to the pointless war in the middle east that involved war crimes just like every war I can think of since the Geneva Convention became a thing, that President Biden funded, did so in safe states that VP Harris won.
The makeup of the United States means that Republicans have an advantage in the Senate and therefore also the Electoral College.
Republicans gerrymander, Democrats half-heartedly gerrymander, since that is against the ideology of liberalism. This gives Republicans an edge in the House of Representatives as well.
The Republican advantage in the Senate is so great that the only way for Democrats to get a majority is to include neoliberal or conservative senators like Manchin, meaning progress is continuously stifled.
The Republicans are allowed to get away with stretching the rules, while the Democrats have to follow the rules at all times. Part of this, again, is due to adhering to liberal ideology, and part of it is due to the ruling class favoring Republicans. There has been a conservative majority in the Supreme Court since the 1980s. Democrats are controlled opposition, in that no matter how hard they try, they will never be able to enact meaningful change.
An actual left-wing candidate would not be liberal, as is the point of this post. Therefore, they would have no chance of winning the Democratic primary. That would force them to run as an independent or in a third party, and our system makes it almost impossible for a third party candidate to win, at least at the national level.
Yes, it is better to vote for a Democrat than a Republican, but it is much better to build grassroots support for leftism, which, shocker, is what leftists have been trying to do in the US for centuries. If anything, the leftists are doing the most to fight fascism, by trying to get rid of the US system of government that is biased towards the status quo, which by definition benefits the ruling class.
As well as the fact that Elon Musk and Trump have said in no-uncertain terms that they helped fix the election in Pennsylvania as well as the fact that Trump has a history of trying to illegally alter the election results, I think assuming that he necessarily won the vote against Harris isn’t a good base assumption to make in the first place. And that’s not even including the early vote box that was found in the road and the fascist goons who attacked ballot boxes. Even if he didn’t commit election fraud, your points are still completely valid but I think we shouldn’t assume that he was genuinely voted for in the first place.
Yeah, I didn’t even touch Pennsylvania. If you ignore Pennsylvania (specifically PA-7 and PA-8 which are the most likely candidates for election shenanigans) and the one seat Republicans gained due to gerrymandering (technically three: NC-6, NC-13, NC-14, but Republicans actually had to remove gerrymandering leading to Democrat wins in LA-6 and AL-2), Democrats would have taken the House. This is why the Supreme Court ended up voting against Independent State Legislature, as it would have benefited the Democrats due to ending the independent redistricting committees in states like California.
EDIT: I honestly think Republicans thought the race would be closer than it was, so they messed with suburban Philadelphia specifically since Pennsylvania was key to their strategy. This is mostly due to polling errors in PA-7 and PA-8 that underestimated the Republican by eight points, along with comments by Musk and Trump.
In Luzerne County, one of two eastern Pennsylvania counties where Republicans overtook Democrats in active voter registration earlier this year, poll workers failed to set up shop on time.
Polls were supposed to open at 7 a.m., but in Luzerne County, wokers (sic, lmao) at a precinct in Laflin Borough were unable to access a scanner due to an issue with the lock. By about 8:40 a.m., several machines were up and running.
They didn’t say this, but Laflin Borough is part of PA-8.
“I’m a leftist!” Helps get a rapist felon fascist get elected
It is so funny when Americans think that the election was fair and they had a choice. You have a kayfabe version of democracy.
“Take the Blue Pill and the gradual slide into fascism stops accelerating for four years while the current hellscape becomes the status quo, take the Red Pill and buckle the fuck up as we hyperspeed into fascism”
It’s hilarious when people think it is anything other than a 2 party system.
It is a kayfabe democracy. It has only oligarchical management, not democratic representation. No matter who wins the elections the policies are predetermined. Rooting for Kamala over Trump is no different than rooting for The Undertaker in Wrestlemania.
Sure sure, because under Kalama Harris this was how January was going to go too, yep.
It was, yeah. The US was going to implode and decline no matter which person was appointed by your oligarchy. You didn’t vote for any of the corporate board members who control your society and government in November. You also didn’t actually have a choice, in kayfabe democracy the results are predetermined, much like all the elections in authoritarian carceral states.
No, I strongly disagree that Harris would have all DEI removed, all black history everything paused for the military, etc. Harris was not going to push for more tax breaks for the ultra rich. The project 2025 agenda was not going to be pursued under Harris. You may not approve of the Harris agenda, but they are not remotely comparable except through an absolutist all or nothing lens. Claiming they are the same is absurd.
You are not understanding what I am saying. You do not live in a democracy. Harris had no chance of winning because your elections are fake. That is what I mean by results are predetermined, just like Wrestlemania. The US oligarchs fixed the elections during redistricting years before the election took place. During the ridiculous run up to the event nothing you did mattered. You live in a authoritarian oligarchy.
I won’t deny the oligarchy thing, but I think it’s a pretty hot take that the election was predetermined.
Occam’s Razor… There are many other possibilities that seem more likely to me. Such as the Biden campaign floundering at the last second - which you could again argue was rigged, but once again, seems to be the less likely thing. You’re suggesting that many people would be in on this conspiracy and that ALL of them would stay quiet. All the thousands of regular citizens who participate in the election process would also have to stay quiet. I know some of those people - they are regular people living regular lives. You’re also supposing that this cohort of dishonest people would find it advantageous to spend a huge amount of resources on elections - it’s pretty incredible how much effort goes into it, and if they already knew what the outcome was going to be, I would think they would act differently (perhaps you argue “that’s the point, just to fool you”).
We start to paint the picture of a conspiracy to control the American people when they are already under control because of capitalism. Everyone would have been under government control regardless of the election outcome. So I don’t understand the supposed motivation for everyone working together to rig the election in Trump’s favor. There are oligarchs who this election result does not favor as well, so I don’t buy that it is just them pulling the strings. Oligarchs have influence no matter the administration, so why would they care to rig the election? Maybe a few of them would rig it to try to get power (see Musk), but it doesn’t make sense that they would all be working together to rig it.
So I don’t buy that the Biden and Kamala campaigns were in on it, and I don’t buy that election workers were in on it.
What makes you so sure the election was rigged??
Yes, it is better to vote for a Democrat than a Republican, but it is much better to build grassroots support for leftism, which, shocker, is what leftists have been trying to do in the US for centuries. If anything, the leftists are doing the most to fight fascism, by trying to get rid of the US system of government that is biased towards the status quo, which by definition benefits the ruling class.
As well as the fact that Elon Musk and Trump have said in no-uncertain terms that they helped fix the election in Pennsylvania as well as the fact that Trump has a history of trying to illegally alter the election results, I think assuming that he necessarily won the vote against Harris isn’t a good base assumption to make in the first place. And that’s not even including the early vote box that was found in the road and the fascist goons who attacked ballot boxes. Even if he didn’t commit election fraud, your points are still completely valid but I think we shouldn’t assume that he was genuinely voted for in the first place.
Yeah, I didn’t even touch Pennsylvania. If you ignore Pennsylvania (specifically PA-7 and PA-8 which are the most likely candidates for election shenanigans) and the one seat Republicans gained due to gerrymandering (technically three: NC-6, NC-13, NC-14, but Republicans actually had to remove gerrymandering leading to Democrat wins in LA-6 and AL-2), Democrats would have taken the House. This is why the Supreme Court ended up voting against Independent State Legislature, as it would have benefited the Democrats due to ending the independent redistricting committees in states like California.
EDIT: I honestly think Republicans thought the race would be closer than it was, so they messed with suburban Philadelphia specifically since Pennsylvania was key to their strategy. This is mostly due to polling errors in PA-7 and PA-8 that underestimated the Republican by eight points, along with comments by Musk and Trump.
Oh, and also this article. Yes it’s New York Post, bear with me here. https://nypost.com/2024/11/05/us-news/widespread-voting-problems-reported-in-2-heavily-republican-pennsylvania-counties/.
They didn’t say this, but Laflin Borough is part of PA-8.