• Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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    2 days ago

    No movie ruined the themes of Star Wars as much as ESB. Every important person being a Skywalker or a Palpatine turns Luke into plot royalty, and takes away his specialness as an everyman hero.

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      “I want to learn the ways of the force and become a Jedi like my father”

      It was established in the first one that Luke’s father was a powerful Jedi. I guess you didn’t pay attention.

      And yeah all of those important characters like Obi Wan Skywalker, Yoda Skywalker, Han Palpatine, Finn Palpatine, Poe Skywalker, LOL.

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        “I want to learn the ways of the force and become a Jedi like my father”

        At the end of Episode 4, Luke’s father is an un-named Jedi, part of a whole lost order of Jedi. That gives Luke a special heritage, but not a unique heritage, as he has later.

        I feel like every film after IV has Disney-princessed the Skywalker family a bit further, including episodes V and VI.

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        Luke’s father in 4 wasn’t important to the plot. He wasn’t even named. If a character in a movie doesn’t get a name, they’re not important. Luke’s father had the kind of abstract importance that matters to characters but not to the audience.

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          I think you’re not all the familiar with the movie. The Light Saber Obi Wan gives Luke is stated to be his father’s. Obi Wan talks about Luke’s father. Luke mentions wanting to be like his Father in a pivotal moment.

          In movies you don’t devote a scene to discussing a character’s father and you don’t mention the character’s father in a pivotal scene if the character’s father isn’t important. It’s also mentioned that Luke’s father was a great pilot and later we see Luke piloting a fighter.