I believe in Night-watchman state and I think that any country currently would benefit massively from supporting liberal values.
But I also wonder, what did liberals do to deserve all the hate they get online?
Love “I’m a liberal” by Phill Ochs does a great job expressing the critics by the left.
Then you have neoliberal ideas which is basically capitalism with regulations, subsidies, and safety nets. Which fiscal conservatives hate because they cost money and hurt their investments.
Online people hate on them because its the status quo and things suck so they get the blame. Nvm the mountain of obstacles opents of the philosophy put up against it as well.
The confusing thing for those of us not from the US is that Americans use “liberal” when they’re often referring to people who are socialist.
It doesn’t really make any sense.
We are binary. We are a coin with liberal on one side and conservative on the other. Which is handy because the more people define all the specifics of liberal, neoliberal, socialist, communist, progressive, and whatnot, the less I’m able to identify with any of them.
I am part of the union of disparate philosophies that does not want Trump. That’s a bit of a mouthful, though.
Most of the hate against liberals has been seeded by Russian troll farms.
Most of the hate against conservatives has also been seeded by the same farms.
When the hate is picked up on by the locals, then that farm’s work is considered effective.
An actual civil war is the big prize.
It’s always interesting how right-wing trolls and supporters are most common during Moscow working hours.
People on the US don’t know what the word “liberal” means. And lots of people here are from the US.
I’m from the US. Enlighten me!
In a ELI5 level, do you know about that political alignment quadrant, where the horizontal is a bullshit dimension and up is “authoritarian”?
“Liberal” is the label of the bottom part.
In many ways, I think that accurately reflects US politics.
Liberal Americans are central right conservatives in most of the rest of the workd.
It can lead to confusion in discussions with international audiences. I don’t support most of what the Democrats stand for or do, the GOP is just batshit crazy of course.
As an aethiest anarchistic, I’m used to wathing with bemusement from the outside anyway.
If you post anything vaguely political online you’ll get lots of people showing up and telling you that your views are wrong. I’d be careful of confirmation bias if you think it’s only one side getting all the hate.
They don’t, but since liberalism is the default supporters of liberalism don’t feel the need to be vocal about it; whereas those bucking the status quo, both progressives and regressives, feel the need to make their perspectives heard.
How are we defining liberal here? I wouldn’t consider ‘centrists’ to be liberal, personally, but here in America most people think of them that way.
I think, to further emphasize your point, whoever asks must also define what constitutes center.
In my own country I’d be a moderate centrist with anarchist leanings. In the US I’d be extreme left, liberal, and on NSAs watch list.
