Again, how?

In the US I can point to specific moments where we see how democracy is degraded by the pedophile class, such as in 2010 when the courts struck down Section 203 of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, allowing for super PACs to corrupt politics. Similarly there has been a loosening on monopolies more recently. These are slippery slope items, not inevitabilities. .

Unions in the Industrial Revolution, followed by a period of degradation as people got comfortable, followed by FDR’s coalition, followed by a period of degradation. I’m not arguing things were ever perfect, I’m more so arguing that in any system, as people get comfortable corruption increases because there is less memory of why the protections exist in the first place. If the US survives this one, I hope we invest more in civics education, in addition to thr advances we made in education prior, and make voting mandatory. And introduce ranked choice. But I’m failing to see what makes communism uniquely corruption proof - especially considering that there is a single politic party that controls the elections.

So its the structure if the democracy as opposed to the capitalism vs socialism?

What keeps corruption out of China’s government?

Just as public ownership in capitalism is not socialism, private ownership in the context of a socialist system is not capitalism either.

Well, if you declare it.

Please explain how utilities are seen between the 2 different systems. Utilities seem to both operate on the same principals in the US and China, in such, that the people elect a government who then sets the price while heavily regulating for maximum efficiency

Adding domestic concentration camps is revolutionary in my opinion. Not saying its good.

Both fundamentally changed the country, yes.

Do you mind defining:

-Capitalism (or the US’s economy, taking into account utilities, imperialism, and government sectors such as military/oil)

-Socialist Market Economy

Entryism historically has faired better than a “revolutionary” third party. No party aside from Dems and Republicans have controlled congress or the presidency since the 1850s. More recently we have seen political flips. FDR’s New Deal coalition failed to include LGBTQIA+, but the coalition survived 30ish years with prosperity for the working class* before ultimately being destroyed by Nixon and ultimately Reagan.

My point being, that the last 2 times revolutionary politics wete introduced (FDR and Reaganism/Trumpism) it led to YEARS of success for the party:

Healthy, well-regulated capitalism is complementary to socialism. In a world of abundance capitalism gives power to the workers to choose how they want to spend their time and to work on the projects they’re passionate and proud of, while socialism evens the playing field for kids to be able to grow up and participate on an equal footing, and it enables entrepreneurs to take greater risks to advance society’s collective prosperity. Healthy, well-regulated (but still flawed) capitalism existed for under 50 years. It did not address bigotry and other social injustices, as society was considered to be a monolith of white men. Socialism in this same time frame would have had the same issues: unaddressed bigotry and unequal footing.

It should also be noted that legislation has increasingly made it more difficult for a 3rd party to participate. So while there was limited success in 2000, States have made it more difficult for third parties to have success.

We need a revolution. I would rather a peaceful revolution, and I’m sure you would too. But regardless of the shape the revolution takes, following a path of least resistance is a less labor intensive way to grow a movement, and it’s a playbook that has worked well against the LGBTQIA+ community.

“Trans people shouldn’t play sports” offends fewer people than “trans people shouldn’t live” even though they mean the same thing. That’s why Republicans have hit sports so hard. It’s why they targeted local drag shows not Ru Paul’s Drag Race. Take a page from their book. Tea party the shit out of the Democrats.

If you want to build a movement quick, get quick wins. Boycott a local restaurant for hosting a Nazi candidate, as opposed to boycotting Walmart. Creating a 3rd party pushes an elected revolution back by a minimum of 4 years (since many states dont give ballot access unless you hit 5% in the previous election).

*Of course, the cis straight white folk faired the best

Or hijack and revolutionize a party with the infrastructure to win.

Exactly. And especially getting involved locally, where you can have a greater influence and more readily make a difference.

Alright, so I read through your other comments and you’ve proven yourself to be a Nazi.

I am not saying you are a Nazi because I disagree with you. I am saying you are a Nazi because you are looking to shift the definition of what a Nazi is so that Neo-Nazis can exist more easily and more freely without being called a Nazi. Fuck Nazis, such as yourself.

By definition homophobia or transfobia is no nazism even if it is as bad as nazism.

What the fuck did I just read? Nazis rounded gay and trans folks up and put them in death camps too.

Get the fuck out of here, Nazi fucking scum.

Most people look back on Nazi Germany and see the populace as the Nazi scum they were. Most of the populace that wasn’t a victim, including the ones that voted against Nazism, deserve this treatment, as they did not do enough to stop it.

My point is that even as a political strategy we might be better off trying to find reasons on why other people is “one of us” instead of trying to find reasons on why they are the worst scum on earth.

This is an extremely valid point you are making. It is why I oppose Democratic leaders like Gavin Newsom, Amy Acton, etc throwing trans people under the bus in an effort to get Republican voters.

The rest of your comment is incredibly anectdotal, and doesn’t match with my lived reality, where local Republican leaders called me a pedophile because I hosted some drag shows. My experience has been that Republicans lead and convince with fear, as opposed to using intellectualism to get people to hate gay people. Sure, that convincing may be incremental, but I don’t think the conversation you created in your head has ever happened in any reality.

Likewise, I have never seen a Democrat organization kick someone out for being opposed to taxing the rich, let alone call them a Nazi. In fact, most of the Democratic party’s leadership at the national and at state levels oppose taxing the rich. That’s why the DSA and similar parties/caucuses are gaining power within the Democratic party.

But let’s be clear, the story you made up in your head, has never happened, despite how fucking erect I would get if it did happen. Your story is less believable than Candyland.

All Republicans are Nazis. Republicans may be misguided in why they are voting Republican, but that doesn’t make them any less of a Nazi.

A Republican voter may be incredibly passionate about crashing the economy (9 of the past 10 economic recessions have been caused by Republicans), and they may be voting Republican because they want to crash the economy. But they doesn’t absolve them of voting for ICE to terrorize communities.

We didn’t give the 1940s Nazis a pass because they didn’t know what that the wretched smell was bodies burning. We treated them exactly as who they were: Nazi scum.

implying that every republican is a nazi

You seem to be implying that not all Republicans are not Nazis.

10 years ago it was true that not all Republicans are Nazis. However, there has not been no resistance from every elected Republican to the Nazi movement within the party for far too long to be able to honestly make the claim that Republicanism is not Nazism.

I find the electric usage one to be strong. If you have a lot of data centers near, your electric will go up.

Similarly, if you have a data center near you, your water bill will go up, and your well may dry up.

Data centers are demanding incentives from governments across the country with promises of lots of jobs, but they just need the people to supplement their low usage of utilities.

New to Lemmy. Is this common from this instance?

I’m no fan of the dem elite, but I’m still a believer that if we’re OK with incremental change and we’re active at all levels of government that we can motivate others to re-engage and take back what’s ours. That doesn’t mean that we wait till we can vote again and try better next time, it means we start creating the society we want to exist. Building up local politicians, and supporting the hell out of places that support us, hell, even supporting the hell out of places that aren’t supporting us right now but have the structure to support us.

A small blue brick with a strange marking on it was found, “NØKÍÁ”. When a button was pressed a screen lit up with a young blond female and pink hyroglyphics “HANNAH MONTANA LINUX FOR NOKIA 2026”. On it, an instance of Minecraft with a library unlocked keys to the past as archeologists roamed a pixelated landscape as an avatar named Rahul.

And what’s it mean in terms of sex things?

I don’t know what it means in either context tbh. #justsweetsummerchildthings