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  • Who exactly is “people like me”?

    Stop making assumptions. Particularly when my comments directly contradict them.

    You’re reading things in my comments that aren’t there.

    And by the way, GPL-1s aren’t some sudden fix. Yes it helps with the appetite and hunger.

    But that comes with other baggage, like needing to monitor for side effects, finding the proper dosage (and keeping on it.)

    It’s certainly not a viable solution at the scale that’s currently necessary. Even so, I’m not seeing anyone here saying traditional weight loss isn’t hard- and I’m certainly not.



  • Whataboutisms are wild.

    Then original comment said that traditional weight loss isn’t a permanent cure.

    Neither are gpl-1s.

    And bringing other medications into it is irrelevant.

    If you want to cure obesity, it needs to be done at a societal level. You have to be Socratic about it. Nobody ever gets past the first easy “but why” to “what causes obesity.”

    And of those who do, no one ever gets past the easy pill, that makes corporations rich.

    The reason the US in particular doesn’t have the political will to press for the societal change we know will solve things is because it hurts profits of corporations like nestle or General Mills (and many of these mega corps are also profiting off the medical issues the fist creates.)

    If GPL1 is the only way it works for you, that’s between you and your doctor, but long term, it’s not a solution. It’s just another subscription making life more expensive than it needs to be



  • “I know this ‘if you go off the diet plan you gain weight’ argument is big in anti diet plans, but…’”

    I get that gol1s help people regulate their caloric intake. Don’t get me wrong.

    But acting like they’re some miracle when they’re not is counter productive, particularly given that the core issue is ultimately behavioral in the first place.

    People who’ve gotten to obesity have done so are more likely to revert to the same habits that led to it in the first place. Unless there’s something fairly radical about their lifestyle.

    For me that change was finding a few gymbro friends who both cared enough to keep me going and genuinely celebrated my losses (and gains, weightlifting was part of the exercise thing.)

    I’m not a gymbro, and I never will be, but being around them is sort of like a smoker finding new friends who don’t smoke. It makes it easier.

    The other more important change was therapy. Lifelong habits don’t change easily, and therapy makes that much easier.

    The point being here that GPL1 is not the only way to get there; and in terms of society’s health, almost certainly not the best solution. (That solution would require prevention, and corporations don’t like that.)