My bad, I didn’t know it was a nazi symbol. One is enough.
I think I misunderstood you earlier, because I agree with what you said.
What percentage extreme-right do you think there are at this moment?
I have no way of estimating it, but I doubt it will be a low number.
Can they get rid of their and western influence that prohibits them from reaching peace?
How can I know? Only time can tell.
Well here he is:
Which of his tattoo are Nazi ones?
Such an unfortunate coincidence that in nearly every photo or video you see from ukrainian military
You’ve said many times that your opinion is factual and objective, yet you constantly exaggerate things. Does Ukraine have a Nazi problem? Sure. There are neo-Nazi battalions, and the government plays along with it by proclaiming the UPA as heroes, etc. But most of the soldiers are not Nazis - they’re regular people. Especially now, when they’re being kidnapped from the streets to recruit into army. But if it’s like this in nearly every photo you use, then the media you consume is simply biased. Because for Russia, it’s convenient to portray every Ukrainian as a Nazi - it makes people less upset about the war.
Russia has Nazi and alt-right people in their army, BTW. Just not on the same scale.
First of all they are wasting OUR EU money.
Yeah, I didn’t say Ukrainian money 😅 But it’s not like Russia doesn’t have cheap rockets, right? Now drones are quite popular, too.
About mines - yes, I remember, it was awful, I agree.
I recently had to use Instagram and it’s actually has an awful UX. Looks like peoples just too used to it.
A guy with a nazi tattoo is a nazi.
Sure. But do you have any photo such tattoo on him? Also UN reports that the strike killed 59 civilians and no legitimate military target around.
They aren’t going to waste a 4$ million Iskander on a few peasants.
So why would Ukraine waste money on their rockets to kill civilians?..
Yup, no country besides Russia can blow stuff up from a distance.
I mean, yeah, you cannot explode things from a distance without something like a rocket or a drone.
I mean do you have a proof for that specific guy?
The mentioned consequences for Russia weren’t significant. No power plant exploded and Crimea had already lived with the canal mostly blocked from 2014 to 2022. There was no rocket, it’s confirmed. No one else could blow it up, that’s the problem.
Russia claimed that he was a neo-Nazi, but I don’t see any evidence for that. It’s not like Russian media aren’t biased. That’s how it always works: both sides try to deflect casualties they caused and present casualties caused by the other side as war crimes.
Armies sometimes take actions that damage their own side if the broader military benefit is worth it. In this case dam’s destruction disrupted Ukrainian plans for a Dnipro crossing operation. It was at the time of Ukranian counter-offense. Since it was an inner explosion, I have a hard time believing that Ukrainian saboteurs came to the dam unnoticed and detonated. This was not like planting a small bomb near a road. Destroying a huge hydroelectric dam is not easy. And Russia didn’t catch anyone or present any evidence of that afterwards.
Okay, maybe I rushed with “any source”. 15850 are UN numbers, but 5600 comes from TASS. If look at UN numbers it’s 3404. In the graph you can also see that most casualties happened in first 2 years, after that it was a cold conflict.
And only 2 deaths?
Okay, what about the Hroza strike, which killed 52 people? Or the recent attack on Kyiv after the Ukrainian college strike, when a house was struck by a drone twice - doesn’t that sound like an air defense system malfunctioned?
That hospital could be gone if they wanted it, and the rest of Kiev with it.
So do Ukraine could kill civilians more actively. Surely not on the same scale as Russia, but still. This doesn’t happen because it isn’t practical, both in terms of media and money.
It is nothing like the almost daily attacks on markets in Donetsk with countless more civilians killed.
So do Ukrainian-controlled towns have also been hit by Russian attacks, including markets and shops.
Like the ridiculous story where they blamed Russians for targeting the nuclear plant in Zaporizia.
And I agree with you here. I don’t think it was Russia. But it’s not like only Ukraine tells ridiculous stories. For example, the Kakhovka Dam was blown up by an internal explosion while it was under Russian control, which is suspicious, to say the least.
Even if you combine the casualties from both sides before 2022, they still wouldn’t be even a fraction of what has happened during the full-scale war, no matter which source you choose to use. I’m not even sure why you decided to mention this.
Yeah, I misspoke about the east. But define “very limited”. For example, last night, Russia hit about 20 houses. I’m not saying it was deliberate, but did you somehow calculated that fraction of casualties/firepower caused by Ukraine is higher than Russia’s? Or do you just think that all casualties caused by Russia, like the attack on Okhmatdyt children’s hospital, were accidental, while all attacks done by Ukraine, like the college one, were intentional?
This is how I understand what you are saying:
I'm neutral. I just think that if Russia causes any casualties, it is either by accident or because there was a legitimate military target nearby. But if Ukraine target civilians - it's on purpose.
Will do when I have time.
You either have it or not, otherwise your so-called facts based on nothing. To me thinking that the conflict after the coup in 2014 caused more casualties than a full-blow war is absolutely ridiculous.
there is no comparing these strikes on specific targets to the complete villages
This is correct. But you previously said that casualties caused by Russia are anecdotal, so I assumed you mean that outside of the west people don’t feel the war.
I am not every side since I am neutral.
Can someone really be considered neutral if they believe that one side in the war tells the truth and the other side only lies?
Unlike Shitipedia, not even looking at that.
Provide your unbiased source. But to me, it’s obvious that the casualties since 2022 far exceed those from the 8 years of conflict between 2014 and 2022.
The fighting and most of the damage is done in the east.
That’s not true either. The central regions are targeted by strikes on an daily basis.
To me it’s very clear there is a difference.
Every side will try to convince you that all casualties of the other side were on purpose and we all short go and help the country.
The Banderites made as much casualties there since the coup in 2014
Are you kidding? It’s not even close. And on top of that entire cities were destroyed, forcing citizens to leave.
As I said that with that much firepower only one house as collateral damage is pretty impressive,
I didn’t say it was a single house. Most of the mentioned attack affected Kiev, there were a ton of casualties. One of the houses even got a strike for the second time while it was on fire. I can’t attach a video here, but pretty sure you can google this one.
They regularly have military there in civilian infrastructure which makes it a legitimate target.
I didn’t say this specific one was on purpose. I just showed an example of how often these things could happen. Both sides always say there was a military target, it’s just not practical media-wise to admit things like that.
So your anecdotal collateral damage versus the systematic and deliberate attacks on civilians aren’t comparable in the least.
I previously randomly picked recent attacks with a comparable number of targets.
I’m also pretty sure Ukrainian citizen suffered much more just because of the pure fire potential and the fact that the conflict is happens mostly on Ukrainian territory. Last winter was especially horrible. Russia bombed electricity infrastructure and some people simply froze because of the lack of heating.
Civilian houses in Ukraine are hit every day. Here is a house in Konop from today, for example:
The strike on the student dormitory sucks, but do you think Ukraine hasn’t gone through things like this? Here is a house in Dnipro from June 2 (15 deaths) for example:
What makes you think that Ukraine does that on purpose, and Russia by accident?
What kind of facts? You can find reports from both sides about accusing each other in attacking civilians.
The comment @TDSOJohn@lemmy.world was replying was about “doing them a favor”. I don’t think any sane Ukrainian would say “thanks” for what Russia is doing.
Unlike ukrainians that deliberately target civilian infrastructure, from schools to hospitals.
It’s a bit of a stretch. Both sides did similar things.
The post I linked (the last link) contains the deleted comment from dbzero admin. And it’s basically a TL;DR of the events.
Edit: Interesting, looks like the comment (and others from that person) aren’t displayed on piefed.
But the person doesn’t appear to be banned: https://piefed.social/u/mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Whoa, I didn’t know it! I hate this.
Didn’t they say it was a local model?
Thank you too! Take care as well 🙂