Fair. Although Motorola also left me in the dust with my precious phone, but I was able to find custom ROMs for that one

Well, that’s kind of what is happening today with brands started in the USA as well (Henrik Fisker pulled this stunt twice with Karma and the Fisker Automotive)

I do get your point, I just have a hard time dismissing any and all Chinese cars when the collective “we” have no issue dealing with China as long as there is some middle man charging a premium. I also have a hard time understanding how tariffs address any of these issues.

China is stable enough, or so it seems, to supply most of our electronics, electrical components, plastics, tools, mechanical parts, etc etc etc… There is certainly a way to work with them in a stable way.

But then, how tariffs make all those dangers OK?

PS: sorry but the video is just some Vlogger rant with no evidence presented.

I can find parts for Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota, Mazda, etc all made in China. Why does it work for American and foreign companies making every part they sell in China but it wouldn’t work for a Chinese company

And, if that is the case, wouldn’t it make more sense to just force them to establish some corporate headquarters in the USA (as they rest of the brands do)?

Again, not sure why you are so certain about that when China is already manufacturing the parts for the companies you trust to have them

Good to know you can now uninstall them. I think my son has a Samsung now, I can check with him.

Why? doesn’t Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, SaaB and all the non-American brands already do this? why would China not be able to do it?

A ton of the parts for the American cars actually come from China, why would it be harder for China to do what they already do on behalf of the American manufacturers?

Ok without devolving to ridicule every message, the point it that just because stuff is made in China, it is not necessarily cheap (as in crappy, low quality or unsafe).

I’d like to know what is unsafe about these cars and whether or not this is a real consideration. So far, all I seem to get is protectionism and platitudes.

I returned my last Samsung because it was riddled with bloatwear that could not be disabled or uninstalled

Facebook was one such app, if I disabled it, it would re-enable itself on reboots

And it wasn’t even a cheap phone

I bought an umidigi Bison Pro 3, years ago. It’s still going strong with no noticeable issues

I tried to get a custom ROM but they don’t seem to exist, people call this a garbage brand (it may be, I don’t know) but it has served me well and I’m happy to have paid $250 for a fast phone so I can constantly chat with my wife and browse Lemmy… Why would I pay $1000 for a “flagship” phone to do those 2 same, completely non critical, tasks?

Not necessarily. China makes all the fancy stuff Americans are super proud of.

If safety were a real issue, the gov wouldn’t have attempted to ban them based on tariffs

Ps: your entire first paragraph could have been about American meat processors and I wouldn’t have noticed

You are correct, but that has happened with American brands (even cars) before

At half the price of other EVs, I bet an entire new class of service stores, half mechanic shop, half third party parts, half mods, would spring into existence if these cars are allowed in the market

Instead, we protect the horrible local brands

I watch V for Vendetta every November

I have watched SnowPiercer at least 6 times (and yes, I totally belive it is a sequel to Willy Wonka)

These companies do not make profit in paper but have already made millions for others.

It’s all smoke and mirrors

… To the surprise of <checks notes> absolutely nobody

Actually I have a question and I admit knowing nothing of the legal framework here but…

Isn’t it absolutely ridiculous that a not-for-profit entity can exists solely for the purpose of developing a closed-source piece of software, demand to train it for free off copyrighted material, just to switch to a for-profit entity??

Sound 100% like tax avoidance. Like me registering a charity so I can throw a mega concert/party privately, secure preferencial treatment on supplies, get discounts on artists or even free performance and then switch to for profit as I start selling tickets

Now, Apple might argue that they’re being environmentally conscious by reducing packaging waste. That’s a fair point,

It isn’t… That’s like not flushing the toilet in a public bathroom to “save water”

I want it to be super cool to wear really old but well maintained clothes…

I want people to be all like “oh sorry, this is only 3 years old, I had nothing older to wear”

End the “color of the month” crap and all the hot fashion trends

I had discarded the idea of buying anything Ford a long time ago… this just tells me I had been right all along and there is zero reason to reconsider

Side note: is it me or the worst enshitification news always seem to come from Ford (out of the American car manufacturers)?

Well, you have no reason to considering the innovations Apple provides are 3 years behind

5 year minimum and the are forced to open source every abandoned project