What is it like being an alumni of a school that’s underfunded or neglected? Even if the school is “good” (as in well funded or private), does the learning environment reflect that? Also, the dark side of American schools (shootings) dampens peace of mind for parents since at any given moment some gun wielding individual can storm in murdering those inside (students, teachers, custodians, etc.)

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    Each state does their own thing

    Kind of…

    92% of American k-12 use the same textbooks published by McGraw-Hill, and they’ve always played to the lowest common denominator. Which is often Texas.

    If Texas says they won’t buy a history/science/whatever textbook that says _____ then the rest of the 92% who learned from McGraw-Hill books also never learned it from their textbooks.

    With the rise of standardized testing, nothing is taught except what’s on the text. If a student gets that done they’re “done” and the focus is on the kids who can’t pass it yet.

    Shits fucked and it’s 100% an institutional problem.

    And that’s not even getting into how involved Ghislene Maxwell’s dad was with it in the 80s, and his connection to all the spy work and child rape during the same time.

    To think people haven’t been manipulating the American education system to get the result (idiots) that they want for generations would be woefully naive.

    It’s not about teaching kids to think, it’s teaching them not to question authority.

    That doesn’t mean we stop educating, it means we start actually educating instead of indoctrinating.

    Quick edit:

    This is why things like:

    The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

    Is ingrained in multiple US generations.

    It was in all the same textbooks, all the same homework, all the same quizs, and tests, even the annual standardized tests.

    We all got the same information presented in the same way with the same context/interpretations and exact phrasing.

    The American education is incredibly homogeneous, even if states could technically do different things.

    The real difference is private schools who usually make up the 8% not being served up the same slop.

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      You had me until you got to a private school, which is largely affiliated with a religion. Those cess pools preach mumbo jumbo to impressionable minds and pretend it’s factual.

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        Me:

        There’s only 8% that are different

        You:

        That doesn’t mean they’re better!!!

        Strong argument for public education…

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      The American education is incredibly homogeneous, even if states could technically do different things.

      Only in things that are objective, like 2+2=4, or CAT spells cat. That’s going to be same in every school.

      Things start to get different when you get to subjects with a subjective perspective like history. Then we end up with 50 different curriculums, being taught from a substandard Texas history book. So teachers in some states like to “supplement” their personal course curriculum with their personal research, and we end up with 150 years of many kids being taught that the Civil War was a war of northern aggression who wanted to take away States Rights, and Slavery had nothing to do with it, blunting the effects of the Civil War, and preserving that same systemic racism that has finally broken free and is rampaging across our nation.

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      I don’t know how other school systems did things, but for me not every class every year was 100% straight out of the textbooks. Some certainly were, usually math subjects or science could be.

      It’s anecdotal but I often find the “why weren’t we taught x” type of statements, I remember learning whatever thing in school. I know people will forget stuff and just say they never learned it (I mean, kids do that all the time IN school let alone a decade later) but there’s got to be bigger differences than just public vs private. (I was public)

      I don’t know what though.