Ones that come to mind for me are Vegas, Toronto, Paris
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Dubai is the most liminal fucking city in the world. If a hospital corridor was a city, it would be Dubai.
The opposite of this would be Hanoi. That’s a city where each street feels like a living, breathing animal.
As someone who grew up and lived in Dubai in the 80s to the late 2000s I cannot find fault in your assessment.
Fucking Dallas, TX. Of all the major cities in North America, Dallas is the most devoid of culture. It is a city inhabited by cars, not people. If you took the average of all North American cities, it would be Dallas, but not in a way that derives any value from the cities included in the average. If you asked an LLM to generate an American metroplex, you would get a low-resolution, but otherwise one-to-one map of Dallas and Ft. Worth. Dallas is the backrooms except with a clear view of the sky.
Dallas is Night City without the cool tech or culture, just the crushing capitalism and roads…
Edit: I wrote this on a base level comment but I’m going to put it here too:
Dallas is a soulless corpse where you can’t walk anywhere due to highways, but it you use the highways then it’s like trying to dodge clicking on sketchy ads trying to trick you to click them on PC, except the ads are toll roads. Also every car is trying to kill you. I tried to go to a music show once. It was in a really run down part of town with sketchy people standing around staring at us. There was no signage. We weren’t even sure we were in the right place and no one looked friendly so we just left, and got hit by more surprise tolls on the way back. You can’t leave your house there without having to pay money. It is the most miserable place I’ve ever been.
Dallas is a soulless corpse where you can’t walk anywhere due to highways, but it you use the highways then it’s like trying to dodge clicking on sketchy ads trying to trick you to click them on PC, except the ads are toll roads. Also every car is trying to kill you.
I tried to go to a music show once. It was in a really run down part of town with sketchy people standing around staring at us. There was no signage. We weren’t even sure we were in the right place and no one looked friendly so we just left, and got hit by more surprise tolls on the way back. You can’t leave your house there without having to pay money. It is the most miserable place I’ve ever been.
Second runner up is Port Arthur, Texas. Going to take the scenic route down the coast, are you? Well it’s nothing but pipes and smoke stacks. You can see only a little bit of the marsh that used to be there. The city itself is run down, rotting houses leaning sideways with the pipes and industry always being in the backdrop. Clearly the town is receiving no tax money from the oil corporations infesting their coast in what would otherwise be a nice place. It was a mostly black population I saw outside. Inside stores the people I saw wearing plant uniforms were white or Hispanic and clearly didn’t live in the immediate area. The story writes itself.
I Google the town and it turns out it used to be a nice place with a little permanent carnival on the coast with a ferris wheel and rides with a flourishing tourist industry, but all those people who could afford it moved out when the oil industry moved in and drained the town. Now the only people there are the ones who can’t get out.
It was the most depressing town I’ve ever been through.
God I fucking hate Texas.
I’m from Dallas and this is exactly how is describe it too. It’s an absymally failed attempt to create a human society.
I used to be a trucker, and ya Dallas had bad vibes. It was always so sad seeing all the stray dogs running around.
Literally read a Texas Monthly article asking What’s Wrong with Downtown Dallas today: https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/whats-wrong-with-downtown-dallas/
I grew up in one of the (many) suburbs of Dallas in the late 90’s early 00’s and the problem I had with it is it’s the most extreme form of gentrification I’ve ever witnessed. You can probably estimate an individual’s annual salary within about $20k based on their zip code. The city is so concerned with seeming like a good place to visit, they don’t seem to care if it’s a good place to live.
Memphis, TN. There was literally no one there on the streets and the high crime didn’t make it any more appealing. Your city really sucks when the best thing to see there is a Bass Pro Shops lol
Trenton, NJ
Newark, NJ
actually just the whole New Jerseywait no Asbury Park is nice.
most of New Jersey
New Hope is solid.
Because that’s PA.
Jersey City has its own charm in a gritty sort of way.
oh man I do not enjoy Jersey City
the PATH train and having to wait 20+ minutes for it can fuck all the way offalthough at least there is a train I guess
Bakersfield California, drive through it once. It was like someone was making the most depressing movie about drugs and prostitution and dilapidated infrastructure so they built Bakersfield to be the backdrop
How I felt going through Sacramento
Reminds me of the show Baskets
Wow, New Orleans? I love that city.
Downtown Clearwater FL has been pretty much taken over by Scientologists and is quite creepy now.
I love Nola too but I could see it overwhelming people that are unacquainted or less… let’s say libertine
Charlotte, NC. That place is still segregated
Luton
I see your Luton and raise you a Swindon.
The Swindon lot are little slugs, little slugs with no personality who are just jealous of us because we’re better than them at everything.
Glasgow in the 90s. I live in rural Scotland, but while studying in Edinburgh I used to travel through to see my girlfriend. As soon as I got off the bus I’d get this weird, hostile vibe. I was approached all the time by folk trying to hustle me for money or crazies just being weird AF. The city aggressively prides itself on being friendly, but I always found it intimidating.
I was in Glasgow a fair bit during the Commonwealth Games and the locals were almost aggressively friendly, it was pretty funny. I live in Edinburgh and I like going to Glasgow for a break from all the tourists.
it’s not that bad any more. west end is tame too
Stuart , Florida. Dark vibes everywhere. Even though it looks clean , and nice. It has a very seedy underbelly.
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Me personally, I don’t like Irvine, CA. It feels fake, corporate, unnatural. It’s most likely because everybody there is high income and they’re just corporate slaves.
Has anyone said this yet? Every U.S. city
Seattle is pretty great, as US cities go. NYC is hit and miss but also feels like a place where real people live real lives.
Salt Lake City, Utah. Utterly gorgeous, but strongly reconsider moving there if you aren’t a Mormon. The whole valley/arguably state has a constant fog of oppressively bad juju looming over it, despite being truly breathtaking.
Definitely SLC. Hands down.
Shit is like walking through the looking glass.
And not in the cool, drug-induced way. Not like that at all.
Relevant but I’m currently going down this Bricks & Minifigs vs Ben rabbit hole and wow these mormons are creepy as fuck.
Their entire history is insanely, deeply fucked in ways most people don’t realize. Dating back to the very beginning.
Do you have any recommended reading?
So, so much. My very long comment got wiped before I could finish–I was trying to find an old 1800s newspaper account from the Library of Congress, so consider yourself lucky I’m relegated to a phone keyboard. I’m working on a book myself, so I’ve got huuuuuundreds of sources, but many of them are historic and hard to share conveniently. For a quick variety:
Fifteen Years Among the Mormons by Mary Ettie V. Smith (1860) is one of the most breathtaking page-turners I’ve ever read. Like many works that touch on history Mormons don’t like, they’ve been very successful at whitewashing this to a mere “unfair anti-Mormon polemic,” but…eh. Very complicated, but it really has the ring of truth to me compared to other similar sources. That’s the source of the screenshot re: SLC.
Exposé of Polygamy in Utah: A Lady’s Life among the Mormons by Fanny Stenhouse (1872) is a favorite. She had a sharp wit.
No Man Knows My History by Fawn Brodie (1945) was a nuclear bomb of a book.
In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith (1997) goes into the MINIMUM 33 girls and women Smith “celestially wed,” including minors, mother-daughter pairs, etc…
For a much more accessible option, look up Mormon Stories on YouTube. The church recently sued them, so you know they’re good. And lest you sneeze at that, the Mormons successfully forced fucking WIKILEAKS to take down one of the church’s internal instruction manuals (it’s copyrighted material of the literal legal corporation that is the Mormon church). They’ve got crazy money, crazy connections. You’ve no idea.
Look up what was the first Sherlock Holmes book (Part 2) and ask yourself why captive Mormon women became such a theme then. In the UK!? Yup. And so much more.
Did you know that the Mormon church owns 2% of the landmass of Florida? Like right now?
I’m just trying to say: it’s a deeeeep fucking rabbit hole.
Extremely interesting, thank you for the recommendations!
I just discovered this yesterday and went all the way down that rabbit hole. Holy moly they are really trying to beat down on the guy trying to do the right thing. That police department is NASTY.
It looks like he has some good lawyers coming his way though. Looking forward to the second part of the civil rights lawyer’s video (and part three of his own).
Seems like it’s a really deep rabbit hole!
I lived in Provo for 2 years. I’d still be there if not for the Mormons.
I’ve heard that, in terms of geography and natural scenery, Salt Lake City is the city people want when they think they want Denver.
What do you get instead with actual Denver?
High plains just before the mountains. SLC is more in the mountains
Worst city on earth.
Look, I’m just going to say it: I cried the first time I visited, okay? It was that beautiful. Then I immediately moved there. Whoops. Worth it(???) I’m still not sure. Those 5-6 years definitely took a piece of me.
The first time I went to Paris it was in late November and freezing rain was falling. There was a transportation strike and only one subway line was running. I got drenched and caught double-pneumonia on my first day there and was very sick the entire week I was there.
Still had a better time there than SLC.
They have a program that marches the homeless around the city on rotation to keep them out of sight.
There’s a disturbing degree of popular support and blissful ignorance
Yes! I’ve been there several times, and I hate to be the type of person that describes it as having bad vibes, but it always feels weird
