I’ve been looking at phones lately and I’ve seen this company called Enough from their YouTube kickstarter video. It’s them and SLEKE (maker of OdesseyOS) working on building a nice size phone. I’m thinking of supporting their kickstarter because I am tired of these humongous phablets, and I can’t stand on how they feel in my hand when holding them.

The phone has everything I want but I am really wondering if the bootloader will be unlockable.

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      that’s only if you choose the “anti-distraction” OS where nearly no apps are available. stock android is also an option (on which sideloading is still very much possible but harder with a waiting period after the restrictions you’ve probably heard).

      i think this feature of the anti-distraction OS is probably a misstep if it can’t be overridden, but you do not have to use the anti-distraction OS at all.

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        It just says “Android OS”, which can mean a lot of different things. No one would actually want “stock Android”. But whatever it is is probably better than their own OS.

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          What do you mean “no one would want stock android”?

          That’s the whole selling point of the Pixel serie phones. No 3rd party bloat or unwanted features, quick updates, etc.

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    I might have simply missed it, but I didn’t see mention of expandable storage, and the provided storage is quite small. I also specifically noted the lack of 3.5mm (they will provide a USB adapter, but those are frail and prone to failure). Bluetooth is nifty and all, but when I’m on mile 7 of a marathon or even a half and my headphones die, I will be filled with a supernova-class rage that a reliable wired option was never provided (an inevitability). All that, mixed with the low specs, is completely a nonstarter. If there was a headphone jack I might feel differently, but this ain’t it.

    Slightly related concern, did anyone see that extremely condescending video from Nothing that was basically like “small phones are for nerds, and only idiots want phones thick enough for headphone jacks. Want to debloat your software? How about no OS at ALL so this expensive gadget does not function!” Talk about rage baiting. Fuck those guys.

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      when I’m on mile 7 of a marathon or even a half and my headphones die

      That’s a user error though, and only your own fault. Most BT headphones will outlast even slow marathon runners these days, so if yours die at mile 7, you’re the cause because you came unprepared by not charging your gear.

      Having a wire dangling down your body for a HM or marathon would be absolute hell for me though.

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        In theory there are a number of “true wireless” buds that claim 4+ hours. In practice battery degradation is real. Charging can also be inconsistent. Even Apple’s own Airpods have failed to recharge inside their case for me and virtually everyone that I know that has them. Not Airpods, but my BT pair doesn’t last 1.5 hours on a full charge, anymore, and charging has become incredibly inconsistent. But you know what doesn’t need recharging? You know what doesn’t experience battery degradation and forced obsolescence? Just gimme my goddamn headphone jack. “User error” gtfoohwt

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      I remember that video. I was in full support of Nothing until that came out, I lost complete respect of them after that. Just another company that went completely against their motive and a wanna be Apple😒😒

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        Nothing is so weird, adding AI buttons that can’t be remapped and adding lots of new unasked features to their OS.

        They had a niche and botched it completely.

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        Yeah, same. And I was not prepared for the level of outright contempt they showed toward their fans with that one. “These are our most requested features by our customers,” proceeds to call them nerds and laughs as they brag about not building said features.

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          Literally every feature was something that sounded good to me. Even no OS I can work with as long as I can install one. Just save me a few extra bucks that way

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    The iPhone 5/5s was probably the perfect phone for me in terms of comfortable one handed use. Something like that again would be perfect.

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      Yeah… that size is perfect. I remember having the 6s plus ( my first iPhone) it was 5.5 in, so only .2 inches taller than the Enough Phone. When that phone was done, I struggled with finding a phone I was comfortable with ever since.

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    Company: I don’t wanna make a big phone. Waste of resources, engineers say no difference.

    Older users: I want a big phone. I can’t see shit on the existing models

    Company: ok I’ll make one, but it’ll cost ya. Markets small and all that, plus old users are not in line with our brand.

    Older users: ok done.

    Fomo users: zomg! More expensive phone must be good! Buys them. Does the exact same thing on the gigaphone

    Company: hey, we might be on to something here. Proceeds to add useless features no one wants or uses whole jacking up the prices.

    Older users: wtf is this phone asking me for my satellite launch codes?

    Capitalism sucks.

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        I always bought the smallest smartphone I could get my hands on until I hit my late 40s and my eyes weren’t so good anymore, now I get the biggest. Don’t know why companies don’t just cater to both. Different people got different needs.

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        I loved the 4. I dropped it while looking for a lost dog, and ran it over with a car, which finally broke it for good. I tried to get my account transferred to a friend’s old iPhone 4, but the guy at the store (this was before SIMs in iPhones, I think, so they needed to transfer your phone service over in store) said he literally couldn’t do it and tried to sell me the 8. No idea if that was correct, but I didn’t buy it.

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          If the solution presented at an Apple store is “buy new product” it’s likely just fishing for a sale. Use a 3rd party and they’ll do the work and not gaslight you.

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    I don’t need a new phone anytime soon but if I needed one, my dream phone would be the build of the iPod Touch 5 (I love the small reachable screen and thin body) but with a good set of cameras, long battery, and modern features, and without risking bending or anything. Not possible I don’t think, at least good battery in such a small package, but that would be my dream.

    Funny enough I have a large phone right now. I love the battery life but the size does really bother me. I like to use my phone with one hand but it’s incredibly inconvenient with a large phone. I don’t have tiny hands but barely reaching the opposite edge of the screen isn’t the most comfortable.

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    I missed the return of the big phones, but I suppose it’s possible that my hands have simply grown alongside the trends.

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      We used to call extra large phones phablets.

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      …but all phones got so large that there was no reason to use a different word. Look how much bigger a base Pixel 11 is compared to that 2013 HTC:

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      An extra large phone is just any phone.

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        I distinctly remember having a Galaxy Note 2 and a friend of mine asking if it played DVDs. It had a 5.5" display.

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        And Anything small nowadays is the ~6.3 in size but those are to big. It really hurts the wrist holding any of those phones

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          I carried an LG phone with 4" screen for YEARS. Way beyond what was considered safe for Android. It just fit so well in the pocket. I kept expanding the storage with larger SD cards. Also replaced the battery, since it wasn’t glued together.

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