Yeah you’re right, funneling more money to the benevolent overlords who own Uber, Doordash, etc. and exploit economically marginalized individuals instead of robots, including by incentivizing them to do bike deliveries in dangerous heat, is a much more just system. That definitely helps fight the evil of large corporations. /s
Don’t be so fucking stupid. We are playing a game of keep your head above water or die in the street in America. Maybe you are in a position that is privileged and comfortable but many Americans don’t have the luxury of being able to pick and choose at their leisure to survive. You think I like uber or corporations look at my comment history? People need to eat. They need to provide for their loved ones and in this country it means doing whatever you can to survive.
And the solution to that is Uber Eats? Lol okay, I’M the one who’s in a position of delusional privilege. Get out of here with your Butlerian Jihad, childlike bullshit.
You’re literally arguing that the status quo is better because people need to keep their head above water, and some hand wavey nonsense about crushing the human soul because we automated food delivery.
Well excuse me let me put it a different way. The status quo is bullshit and we need unions and advocates as opposed to optimistic sociopaths and pedophiles and grifters Nazis thieves and murderers and rapists in positions of authority. Regulate and account.
But America as yet to do anything like that in a fucking loooooooong time. So until then fellow peaons survive and vote like all our futures depend on it. Beware the cope, release the files.
Yes I agree with all that, but whether we use delivery robots or an extremely unfair gig economy doesn’t change any of it. Robotics manufacturing, support, etc should all be unionized and turned into cooperatives of some sort. I wholeheartedly agree. This is a complete non sequitur; continuing to prop up the current gig economy doesn’t make unionizing any easier.
I agree with that also. It just that I interact with a lot of uber drivers and Lyft drivers and people who have fallen into those predatory systems. They are not sustainable but they are really all a lot of people have. We aren’t at a place in the country right now where anyone is coming to help… yet. There is hope on the horizon but it’s not my fault that the reality is that over and Lyft have successfully usurped the taxi industry with all its regulations into the era of app skirting technological circumvention of said regulation through the onus of it “being the future.”
That’s fair. I guess what’s tipping the balance in my mind is that I’m not convinced that those same people wouldn’t be able to, at least in significant part, find jobs which would open because of the manufacture and maintenance of these robots, which seems like at least a slightly less exploitative kind of work and worth which doesn’t place the extremely high, but deferred, expense of added mileage and vehicle wear and tear on the employee. Given the high amount of wear and tear to these perpetually outdoor robots I figure the maintenance needs are high. Plus it would help reduce the number of interactions where we have tipping, effectively transferring wealth from working people to other working people while the wealthy are taking their relatively abundant free time to instead get fine, sit-down dining where they would presumably tip more affluent service workers from higher socio economic backgrounds.
Explain to me how continuing to exploit economically marginalized people with the current gig economy is better without abstract nonsense like “we’re crushing the human soul by using delivery robots.”
continuing to exploit economically marginalized people
Stop twisting my progressive language to suit your ends.
Removing jobs from these people without giving them anything else in return is economically marginalizing them.
Not to mention, I just think more people need to be brought face-to-face, through jobs or otherwise, and I genuinely think you’re a bad person if you don’t.
Why not? It’s a great idea. We need people to have any jobs, even terrible, exploitative jobs, and the jobs should be face to face. Back to manual construction! It’s clearly the better path forward.
Yes because there is no difference in degree at all. Benefitless gig work for the largest, most evil, and anti union companies is literally the exact same as every other job. That’s definitely how communism works. It’s making sure that we keep the worst possible jobs.
Yeah you’re right, funneling more money to the benevolent overlords who own Uber, Doordash, etc. and exploit economically marginalized individuals instead of robots, including by incentivizing them to do bike deliveries in dangerous heat, is a much more just system. That definitely helps fight the evil of large corporations. /s
Don’t be so fucking stupid. We are playing a game of keep your head above water or die in the street in America. Maybe you are in a position that is privileged and comfortable but many Americans don’t have the luxury of being able to pick and choose at their leisure to survive. You think I like uber or corporations look at my comment history? People need to eat. They need to provide for their loved ones and in this country it means doing whatever you can to survive.
And the solution to that is Uber Eats? Lol okay, I’M the one who’s in a position of delusional privilege. Get out of here with your Butlerian Jihad, childlike bullshit.
You seem dense. What makes you think I’m advocating for uber? I’m advocating for people to have food in a system that wants to eat them alive.
You’re literally arguing that the status quo is better because people need to keep their head above water, and some hand wavey nonsense about crushing the human soul because we automated food delivery.
Well excuse me let me put it a different way. The status quo is bullshit and we need unions and advocates as opposed to optimistic sociopaths and pedophiles and grifters Nazis thieves and murderers and rapists in positions of authority. Regulate and account.
But America as yet to do anything like that in a fucking loooooooong time. So until then fellow peaons survive and vote like all our futures depend on it. Beware the cope, release the files.
Yes I agree with all that, but whether we use delivery robots or an extremely unfair gig economy doesn’t change any of it. Robotics manufacturing, support, etc should all be unionized and turned into cooperatives of some sort. I wholeheartedly agree. This is a complete non sequitur; continuing to prop up the current gig economy doesn’t make unionizing any easier.
I agree with that also. It just that I interact with a lot of uber drivers and Lyft drivers and people who have fallen into those predatory systems. They are not sustainable but they are really all a lot of people have. We aren’t at a place in the country right now where anyone is coming to help… yet. There is hope on the horizon but it’s not my fault that the reality is that over and Lyft have successfully usurped the taxi industry with all its regulations into the era of app skirting technological circumvention of said regulation through the onus of it “being the future.”
That’s fair. I guess what’s tipping the balance in my mind is that I’m not convinced that those same people wouldn’t be able to, at least in significant part, find jobs which would open because of the manufacture and maintenance of these robots, which seems like at least a slightly less exploitative kind of work and worth which doesn’t place the extremely high, but deferred, expense of added mileage and vehicle wear and tear on the employee. Given the high amount of wear and tear to these perpetually outdoor robots I figure the maintenance needs are high. Plus it would help reduce the number of interactions where we have tipping, effectively transferring wealth from working people to other working people while the wealthy are taking their relatively abundant free time to instead get fine, sit-down dining where they would presumably tip more affluent service workers from higher socio economic backgrounds.
How stupid do you have to be to believe that the robots are not also funneling money to Uber, Doordash, etc.
Explain to me how continuing to exploit economically marginalized people with the current gig economy is better without abstract nonsense like “we’re crushing the human soul by using delivery robots.”
Stop twisting my progressive language to suit your ends.
Removing jobs from these people without giving them anything else in return is economically marginalizing them.
Not to mention, I just think more people need to be brought face-to-face, through jobs or otherwise, and I genuinely think you’re a bad person if you don’t.
And that’s why I’m proposing a ban on heavy machinery in the construction industry! We need to 👏get👏back👏to👏shovels👏. Preach!
Except I wouldn’t say that, which kinda just makes you look like a sore loser.
Why not? It’s a great idea. We need people to have any jobs, even terrible, exploitative jobs, and the jobs should be face to face. Back to manual construction! It’s clearly the better path forward.
All jobs are exploitative, bumblefuck. You’re from anarchist.nexus, shouldn’t you be a commie?
Yes because there is no difference in degree at all. Benefitless gig work for the largest, most evil, and anti union companies is literally the exact same as every other job. That’s definitely how communism works. It’s making sure that we keep the worst possible jobs.