• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    That’s some smooth manipulation right there. He just complained that he should have won it and they slyly nominated him. Expect lots of great favors for Pakistan going forward.

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    Norwegian here. I can still hear the gasping from the laughter of the nobel committee in Oslo. And I’m on vacation abroad.

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      I really dislike that so many people in this timeline don’t know or can’t see the difference between worse and worst.

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        The subtext behind Pakistan doing it, and doing it now, is to try and bait Trump away from getting involved with Pakistan’s ally: Iran.

        If Trump does anything to Iran, Pakistan is going to make a big fuss about doubling-back on their nomination.

        Does the nomination mean anything? No. Is he going to get the award? No. It’s entirely a diplomatic maneuver for a very specific goal of keeping the US out of Iran.

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          Its just buttering him up for the next terrorism attack on India that Pakistan is planning to conduct. Iran is a Shia majority country and no ally of Pakistan which is a sunni majority country. Minority sects like Hindus, Shia, Ahmadiyas and ethnic minorities like Hazaras are treated the absolute worst in Pakistan. I would be surprised if they ever ally with Iran.

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            Iran and Pakistan are absolutely allies. They do joint military exercises. They have a joint weapons production program. Iran’s diplomatic channels to the USA literally operate out of Pakistan’s embassy in Washington.

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      Not sure if worst, but quite likely the stupidest. I’m no genius myself, but the amount of utter (and aggressive!) stupidity that surrounds us is so exhausting…

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    Pakistan is playing some 5-D chess, here. Butter up the raging narcissist by flattering his ego, in the hopes that he backs down on Iran or risks losing his Nobel prize nomination.

    Smart. He actually might fall for it.

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      Foreign countries know exactly what they’re doing this time around when it comes to manipulating Trump. I think last time they were surprised just how easy and stupid it was and now Saudia Arabia is just like “yeah throw some McDonald’s paint on a trailer and give him a happy meal, he’ll sign whatever we want”.

      The dude is a very very stupid child.

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      He already caused Israel attacking Iran in the first place:

      1. Ripping up the existing nuclear deal with Iran. Giving Israel the excuse.
      2. Emboldening Israel with cruel rhetoric against Palestinians himself. Allowing them to commit genocide freely.
      3. Finally giving them a “yellow light” for the attack.

      So he definitely does not deserve the nomination, but yeah, maybe he can be manipulated into backing off.

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        It’s literally his MO either through incompetence or hubris, he consistently plants landlines for both himself and others:

        • Crash out of the JCPOA despite Iranian compliance and the EU trying to maintain the deal without the US, setting the stage for the current crisis
        • Completely disregard the Palestinian question in the Abraham Accords, signaling to Hamas(/Iran) that the window is closing and soon the whole Gulf will be onboard with permanent Israeli domination of Palestine
        • Give the Taliban whatever they want in the Doha Accords, but in a timeline that forces it to be the next President’s problem
        • Publicly declare he’ll solve Ukraine-Russia in 100 days… signaling the limits of his patience, and that Putin only needs to delay, delay, delay
        • “I’ll make a decision in two weeks on Iran”
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      Totally, this is how you play Trump if you don’t have a handwritten letter from your king

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      Is it still a respected thing? I was under the impression it’s not Obama didn’t do anything except be elected and he was nominated. Can’t remember if he won it though but that seems like pretty weak criteria to be nominated.

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        Obama did win, and it was for his commitments to green energy and climate change. It’s widely considered bad to award people before they follow through to the end, especially for the nobel committee. I think they were trying to use it as further motivation to keep those commitments, but if anything it’s usually the opposite… at least when they give them to sociopath politicians. Could definitely be worse than Obama though.

        Edit: Reading more on it, it looks like it was also for nuclear non-proliferation. I guess both are pretty valid awards for Obama, even if he could have done far more, especially in his first two years.

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        Kissinger won after setting a bunch of infants on fire. Obama winning for nothing wasn’t the worst by a long shot.

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          I hear some Oscar winners go on to work in some really un-oscar films – and they didn’t take the Oscars back. Similarly I had a great day on 14 Aug 1999 and some really un-good days after.

          Is it okay to pick someone’s best achievement and demand that excellence every day? Please answer how you’re doing the same in your own life.

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          Not peaceful at all. I really think it’s a bullshit award these days. Constant drone striking, basic bitch democrat Obama is the best this country can do? Maybe but I hope not

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    “They’re dying, Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I’ll have that done — I’ll have that done in 24 hours.” -Trump, May 2023

    When a leader in any capacity promises something, you expect them to deliver.

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    As as to be said somehow literally every time these headlines are published, nominations for any Nobel prize are kept secret and announcing that you’ve submitted a nomination if anything makes them less likely to be accepted as it harms the nomination by harming the image of the nominator. Anyone can say they’ve nominated anyone for a Nobel Peace Prize and they can’t be proven or disproven for 50 years.

    Oh and “Pakistan” can’t nominate anyone for a Nobel Prize. All you need to be a nominator for the Nobel Peace Prize is to be an elected official or a university professor, but you do have to be a person. The likely of a headline not bothering to distinguish between a person and their 250 million people nation seems to increase linearly with distance east from the Greenwich meridian.

    https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/questions-and-answers-about-the-nomination-process-for-a-nobel-peace-prize/

    Please remember this when that Norwegian ‘scientist’ nominations Trump or Elon or whoever in October like he does every year.

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    I sincerely hope once this fucker keels over we never have to hear from him again.

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        Yes… the vice president Vance. That’s how it works. (Not that I want that either) the whole R party is a shit show, imho

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      Reminds me of the quote Political Satire became obsolete when Kissinger was awarded the Peace Prize. But over the years, there have seriously been multiple controversial candidates who got the prize.

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        Well yeah but wasn’t that why he came up with the Nobel prizes in the first place, to not be remembered as a monster?

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          My other comment still stands… Trump can receive as many as he can and I’ll still see him for what he really is… a giant piece of shit

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        True, but it’s only the Peace Prize that’s a total joke, even the Nobel Memorial Prize for Economics is taken more seriously than the Peace Prize

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          As far as I’m concerned, Trump can have as many as he wants but I still think he’s a piece of walking shit

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    Trump helped secure Pakistan-India ceasefire last month, preventing a broader conflict between the two nuclear

    No he didnt, India has already said it was talks between India and Pakistan and Trump had zero to do with it.