There are examples of that already. elestio.io does it

Not playing the victim. I’m merely stating that vote manipulation is bad, regardless who is on the receiving end. (I didn’t start this thread, I just happen to be an example used in it.)

Organic downvoting me is fine–I get plenty of those. Setting up bots/instances to manipulate downvotes aimed at me isn’t fine though, because it hurts Lemmy as a whole.

They won’t just stop at me, they can start using it against other users as well; even you. Not cool.

Which is the topic of the thread.

Also helps identify trolls and bad actors at a glance if you don’t already have them tagged as such.

Unless there’s been a bunch of downvote manipulation going on, as in the case of OP’s example (and which I’m the target of).

Thank you for this.

I know I’m viewed as controversial, but I legit want Lemmy to grow so I post a lot of content.

But it’s always community-specific and community-appropriate. The conservative news articles that people despise me for, actually only get posted to a few conservative communities. People are free to check my post/comment history to verify.

If people block those communities or even just block me, then they never have to see my conservative stuff. Not sure why they don’t just do that and ignore me.

So the downvote brigading/manipulation was def out of line and goes against the spirit of Lemmy. It’s something that’s more in line with Reddit than Lemmy.

You guys are rockstars for bringing this up. I know I’m not liked, but Lemmy is open to diverse opinions.

YOU guys are the ones who make Lemmy awesome.

I truly wish there were more here with your outlook. Seems like so many here lately have been doomscrolling and just wanna lash out and base their entire identity on politics.

I still like it here better than Reddit, but ugh, hopefully Lemmy can stop being so hateful. I am on both Reddit and Lemmy, and Reddit doesn’t seem to be as personal about it’s hate and insults like Lemmy is sometimes.

But yeah, in the end, we’re all gonna make it, brother. Some people just need to go outside more to realize it. lol

P. S. I think that there’s a wide continuum of posters. It’s not all one guy with one ideology and 100,000 accounts.

Of course, I’m just being a bit dramatic to make my point, because you have to admit that Lemmy DOES skew one way heavily. The vast vast majority of Lemmy leans left.

So far. More and more people are coming on every day. So it may even out.

But even regarding our growth, I see lots of posts saying that people should be banned if they are conservative.

And yeah, my crypto worked out awesome last time, and will this time. But I don’t invest a lot in either crypto or stocks.

I only invest what I can afford to lose. Which is why I never panic when market dips happen.

My use of the “Mulch the rich crowd” as people who will, at least (or perhaps at most) express the desire to grind up billionaires, or maybe millionaires into more useful biomass, such as mulch for their vegetable garden or community allotment.

Seems to be happening today! How come no celebration? I remember seeing Lemmy posts where people wanted to see wall street burn to the ground! Then it’d get hundreds of upvotes. What happened? Where’s that crowd?! lol

Here’s the real reason, IMHO: Because for all of the anti-wall street talk, and the anti-wealth talk, the fact is that Lemmy users on average make more than most americans. So when shit like what’s happening happens, it actually affects them. The very fact that there are so many Lemmy’s worried about their stocks shows that they are the part of the very crowd the like to see destroyed. It was all for upvotes.

Reality hits different.

Now as much as I would love to see this continue to happen. And Lemmy actually be as poor in reality as they pretend to be, I know the market dip won’t last. No millionares are gonna lose their status. All the crying Lemmys who are making $100K a year will be just fine, and they’ll continue acting like they make $15K a year and then watch their stocks rise in between fake justice warrior postings.

So yeah, I am fucking loving the news. Loving what is happening. And I think people are getting exactly what they deserve.

Also, I’m already poor. The wall street news hasn’t changed my life at all. No one tiny bit. Except that my little extra fun money is now being used on buying stock and crypto cuz it’s all cheap! lmao

About what tho? The world isn’t going to end just because you don’t like Trump.

That has nothing to do with anything I said though.

Well said. And exactly why I already stock up on what you listed!

Even though it happened while Trump was in office and fundamentally changed the world since Trump wasn’t the sole reason it doesn’t count?

That’s correct. It happened to the world. Trump couldn’t have prevented it. No one could have. And since it didn’t happen BECAUSE of him, I’m not scared it’s suddenly going to happen again just because he’s in office.

Would you be this afraid if Harris were in office? Because the odds of a pandemic are the same regardless of who is in office.

Sure, but the majority of the poor who democrats and Lemmy portray themselves to care so much about, do not own stocks.

And I have seen plenty of Lemmy posters decry the stock market and wish it would go away. Plenty of hate for wall street and the money makers.

So something bad happens to wall mart, and now Lemmy is mad. So maybe you can explain the discrepancy to me.

Doesn’t Lemmy want to watch Wall Street and the Stock Market burn down?

And on the flip side, does Lemmy think this stock market slump will last forever and never come back, so that money is gone forever?

OR will the market come back in a bit, the rich who buy all the cheap stocks and didn’t panic-sell, will get richer and then Lemmy will yell about how the lowlife dregs of humanity who are rich capitalized on it all and actually made more money? (Hint: This is what will happen. Please save my comment so we can revist it for proof)

And my last point is true, then wouldn’t it be better to just do what the rich do, not sell, and buy now? So you can profit as well?

My entire point is that Lemmy seems confused about what they should be mad about. Do you want to see Wall Street collapse or not? Is this a sign of the Wall Street collapse or not?

Not sure what you mean. Can you explain?

Yeah? So explain the differences.

Because it didn’t end the world and it didn’t happen just because Trump was in office.

So why would the mulch the rich crowd be celebrating?

Because they know they aren’t “losing” money in the market because they aren’t selling like panic buyers are. lol They are buying.

Buy the dips. Sell when high. That’s how they stay rich. They are laughing at you right now

Right!? I mean, Lemmy on the average is wealthier and smarter than the average person, but what is going on in this thread?! lmao

There is no upcoming apocalypse. That’s just doomscrolling too much of Lemmy.

BUT it’s always good to have a good supply of everything for natural disasters, pandemics, etc.

I am totally stocked and I wouldn’t have to rely on any services for over a year. When the pandemic happenend, I didn’t even flinch. I just went thru my stuff, and restocked when things got better.

My land is paid for. I can garden. I have chickens. I have solar power. I am good with my hands. And plenty of timber for heating. Snows and rains a lot here.

There will be no apocalypse just because you don’t like the president. People said the same shit the first time he was prez. But being prepared for anything is awesome. :)

Good points!

I’m healthier and more fit than I’ve ever been before.

Why in the world would you purposely let your health suffer just because you don’t like the government?! What?!