[in front of a protesting crowd, two characters are talking]
[blue, serious] Violence is never the solution
[purple, smug] Agreed, let’s disarm the police

[blue is now shown angrily gesticulating, sweating bullets]
NO,
NOT
LIKE
THIS

https://thebad.website/comic/my_little_state_violence

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    police in america is 33 times deadlier than mass shooters.

    AI Overview Estimates of mass shooters in U.S. history vary widely based on definitions, with studies identifying roughly 172 to 298 “public mass shooters” between 1966 and 2024.

    As of 2023, there were approximately 720,652 law enforcement officers in the United States, according to Statista.

    Yea you’re just bad at statistics. Which is not mutually exclusive with ACAB btw.

    Like this is the reason math teachers don’t accept just the answer. One can arrive at the correct answer while still being terrible at math.

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      Not each individual police officer, police as an institution is more deadly than society’s baseline rate of mass shooters. Surely that was obvious from the context.

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        Buddy ACAB all the way. But you and everyone upvoting you are shit at math. Hive mind af.

        edit: Especially your bit about the AR15. WTF does that have to do with your stats? 90% of the police shootings I see are with handguns.

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          What I meant with that is that all the gun control push to ban AR-15s because they’re used in active shooter incidents from liberals is bullshit because there is a much bigger problem of police violence in America that suburban liberals refuse to address because they benefit from it.

          Also, you posting an AI overview immediately makes me think you’re posting in bad faith.

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            AI overview immediately makes me think you’re posting in bad faith.

            I’m literally just agreeing with the guy saying this is a bad use of statistics. Glad to see the reddit hive mind is alive and well.

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            You replied to me and are defending OP so don’t complain that i’m throwing salt at your math skills.

            The fact that your NOT op makes it worse. Means I nailed it with the hive mind accusation.

            You defs missed the part about getting the right answer with the wrong math. I’m not arguing that police aren’t deadlier than shooters. I’m pointing out the math he used to back it up is bullshit.

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              Ehhh, I’m gonna trust the guy who quoted actual sources and not the guy who literally pasted “AI Overview” into his comment lmao

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                So if I hadn’t been honest you would have trusted me? Very telling hive mind mfer

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      Why is the number of mass shooters and police themselves relevant here? We’re talking about the deaths the respective groups caused, and you haven’t provided any counter-evidence/stats for that.

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        First off because I’m not disagreeing with his thesis. I’m agreeing with the commentor, who also neglected to disagree with his thesis, who said his use of statistics were flawed.

        As to your first question.

        He’s comparing total deaths from shooters and police.

        But if you add up the total number of individuals that have committed mass shootings it’s gonna total like what 1000? 2000?

        Meanwhile there’s at minimum 700,000 police officers in the USA right now (not including ICE-PIGS).

        So his number of 33x more deadly is not accurate, because if the USA had even half as many mass shooters as police the death toll from mass shooters would clearly be larger.

        Hence why it’s a bad use of statistics.

        American’s culture of anti-intellectualism is one of the tools the elites use to control the populace. If we can’t even have an adult conversation about math than how are we going to unite against our oppressors?

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          You can say that individual police members aren’t more likely than mass shooters to kill people, sure.

          However, it is still true that the police is that big and they still killed much more people.

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      You’re saying “bad at math” and “hive mind” and whatever else, but you aren’t actually supporting your argument. What is your argument? How are they wrong? Give supporting evidence or you are going to be ignored. If you have no supporting evidence then you fail.

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        You didn’t listen to your math teacher and youre not listening to me. So no. Brat.