• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    I know you’re just a troll but for anyone who might think this asshole has a point.

    extortion is leverage one person has over another.

    what has happened here is social peer pressure. it happens when one person expresses an opinion or idea that counters public opinion.

    it’s actually exactly why the troll I’m responding to has any amount of downvotes.

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      12 days ago

      So you think fascists don’t use social pressure as a tool?

      So there’s no one in MAGA that goes along with whatever the people in their Church group is saying? You think Trump got abortion banned for personal religious reasons?

      Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but a fascist movement depends on social pressure. MAGA has an alliance with Christian groups so they can apply that pressure. Trump is the most unchristian president in my lifetime, but Christians look the other way on his many many many sins because they are pressured to do so.

      Leftists have a similar relationship going on. Iran is a theocratic authoritarian state, but you have to go along with whatever propaganda the throw your way because of social pressure. So much for religion being the opiate of the masses when Marxists are supporting religious theocracy. You may claim you have an ideology, but really it’s all about going along to get along.

      And this makes you susceptible to propaganda. You may not actually care about Ed Sheeran or what he thinks about geopolitics. But you’re required to act like you care and post comments about Ed Sheeran being a terrible guy because of that social pressure.

      Fascism can’t function without making people feel like they are alone and having no choice but to conform to the social pressures. That is the goal of your movement isn’t it? You have to label me as a troll, some have even tagged me with the star of David (yeah that’s not a fascist thing at all, LOL) because your little movement doesn’t hold up against dissenting opinions. And that’s what I’m doing isn’t it? Telling people that’s ok to have a different opinion, it’s ok to think it’s really shitty to be harrassing a musician for being apolitical.

      Right now your movement is engaged in a harassment campaign against someone that makes pretty innocent music. That’s the dumbest thing ever, doesn’t help any Palestinians at all, it’s obviously just about making your hate group feel like they’re strong. And it’s dumb as fuck. But as we can see with Trump, even dumb people can be dangerous.

      I’m against fascism while you’re just choosing a different flavour of fascism.

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          11 days ago

          The argument is that “we can’t be fascist because we use hammers.” Then you admit that fascists also use hammers and now that indicates you can’t be fascist?

          You’re all about using violence and intimidation for political power. Whether you call it fascist or not, you’re using the same tactics as fascists and do you have any real goals? Nope, cruelty towards others is the point of your movement. Being capable of spelling the word “genocide” doesn’t change the nature of your actions.

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              11 days ago

              Yes, and we may need to have it again because you’re struggling to comprehend that your movement is dedicated to using intimidation regardless of whether it helps Palestinians. Again, please explain to me how harassing an apolitical musicians helps Palestinians.

              You won’t go after the Kraft guy, because it would inconvenience you too much to boycott Kraft products. So instead you go after Sheeran because it’s easier. It’s obvious your goal isn’t change, you just want to bully people.

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                11 days ago

                God damn, you love making assumptions. Tell me more about the things you know for a fact I am buying. What’s in my fridge?

                Also, the core of your argument revolves around the idea that there is no ethical way to organize people in an attempt to enact systemic change. You are framing that any kind of unwanted opposition to anything is fascism/authoritarian, which is itself an argument for fascism/authoritarianism. That’s fucking stupid.

                So, are tou pro authoritarianism/fascism? What the fuck is even your point other than stirring shit?