Until the rule is removed, any new posts about US politics will be removed.
It’s honestly tiring to see the 20th post on the same topic from a country you don’t live in
at this point i’m starting to believe that the reddit format just rots people’s brains.
i don’t know the reason behind this decision, maybe it was taken in bad faith or something, but the amount of people shitting and pissing themselves over this when there are already other communities better specialized for it is mind numbing.Indeed
This makes me more likely to actually visit here. I’m sick of reading propaganda and people spouting propaganda from all sides, and I come to spaces like this for funnies, interesting topics, and so on. My political interests go elsewhere. I appreciate not having to wade through them here.
I disagree with this decision because people need to ask questions to prepare for their safety.
Please reconsider this rule.
!politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world has 5 few active threads since yesterday, such as
Feel free to open others if needed
Please permanentize this!
It could be useful to link to some relevant communities in this posts description if people do want to ask questions.
Indeed, having !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world in the sidebar might help
This rule applies only to the AskLemmy community. A ban on US politics posts in AskLemmy makes sense for several reasons:
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US politics tends to dominate many online spaces already, drowning out other valuable discussions.
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Political discussions, especially about US politics, often become heated and polarized quickly, which can detract from the thoughtful, contemplative atmosphere that open-ended questions are meant to foster. When people discuss US politics, they tend to take hardened positions rather than engaging in genuine exploration of ideas.
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US political discussions often fall into predictable patterns and talking points, which goes against the spirit of having thought-provoking questions. The same debates tend to play out repeatedly, offering little new insight or opportunity for meaningful reflection.
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A community focused on open-ended questions should ideally have a global perspective. US political discussions can make the space feel less welcoming to non-US users who might have fascinating questions and perspectives to share about their own cultures, philosophies, and experiences.
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There are other communities whose purpose better aligns with discussions about US politics.
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People need some communities where they can engage with others and NOT have to see or think about the recent election.
Nobody wants every community to be a free-for-all about every topic. Please feel free to discuss US politics in a relevant community about the US, about politics, or about world news.
Commenting again to repeat that I think it’s awesome that you’re going with a redirect rather than the ban hammer approach.
Thank you so much !
!politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world seems like a good place to redirect those conversations, maybe you could consider adding it to the sidebar, should the rule become permanent?
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I just made a post (my first actually) about this today. I think it’s better for the user to decide what they want to see and use filters rather than block posts entirely.
This should have been in effect for MONTHS leading up to their annoying elections.
Hey I don’t mean to get political but I got a real quick question here. What the heck is an America?
Rare dotworld mod W
Idk what the mod team’s philosophy is on incorporating member feedback vs shaping it to mod teams vision, but fwiw, here’s mine.
I don’t want to see every other post being about Trump either. But I also want conversation to happen. The compromise solution seems to be a mega thread; conversations continue without flooding everyone’s feed. For however this temp rule is in place, delete offending posts and redirect to the mega thread.
A mega thread on a topic as wide as US elections aftermath is probably too small.
!politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world has several threads about project 2025, do people actually consider moving out, what should be done now by parties and voters, etc
Honestly I don’t get the hype about the US presidency, like sure, it was kinda shocking at first how Trump won, but after that I accepted it. I’d rather listen to other issues than the same thing over and over again.
I also find it wierd that many of the fellow Australians around me know more about American politics than Australian politics, likely just because our media covers it to no effing end, sure, do one news story, but not a fucken bajillion.
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Instead of complaining can someone who dislikes this decision please just create a community like “AskLemmyUS”, post a link here so people can find it and get on with it?
I like preference for self posts!
Proper discussion, not politics echo chamber staffed by dnc clowns
politics echo chamber
That better be talking about a lack of diverse left wing opinions, not just a lack of republicans
both… and more…
US political discourse is a pathetic Republican/Democrat circle jerk, then pika face when all we get are regime whore clowns swapping the office while quality of life deteriorates for bottom 80%
Republicans don’t have any political policy, so it’s not surprising that there’s noyhing to discuss.
Did not stop them from the spanking the “good guys” in these elections lol
Ha ha very funny I love when fundamental rights get eroded
That’s what I’ve told so many complaining people. If anyone wanted to they could make one and it would be filled with users in hours, just click create community. Hell tell the mods here to suggest people go there for those discussions, they’d probably link it in the sidebar. But someone has to do it. (And as a mod of a few other communities, someone else can take that one)
But that would be US ExCePtIoNaLiSm!
No, US exceptionalism is turning every single general purpose community into US politics.
For the 4% of Earth’s population that does indeed live in the US, there could be local communities.
It’s still weird to me that there is no US instance. LW and lemm.ee are hosted in Europe, SJW and lemmy.ca in Canada, lemmy.ml and hexbear use a European datacenter.
I mean there is midwest.social and dubvee, but we could have expected a large US instance to have emerged by now.
The closest is probably https://lemmy.today/, but only has 194 users per month.
As a lemmy.today user myself (though not American), it’s cozy in there!
But the numbers are surprisingly low. It’s an instance that is run without donations though, only on the good will of its creator (who refuses donations citing sufficient income to keep it as a hobby project), so I imagine having it big could potentially become a strain.
There used to be dmv.social, which iirc was in Washington DC? It got shut down due to the CSAM attacks, before the automated software, and iirc just frustration in general with how toxic people were being.
And I see a bunch more actually, at https://lemmy.fediverse.observer. 2 of the top 20 instances even are located in the USA. Lemmy.sdf.org with >500 MAUs, beehaw.org with ~400, StarTrek.website with ~200, lemmy.today, ttrpgnetwork, and discuss.online (where jgrim of SubLinks is an admin) are all recognizable. Ofc, the caveat being if I am reading that page correctly - or like perhaps some proxy was used, even a random one and this data could be all wrong who knows - but it at least looks this way?:-)
Lemmy.sdf.org had a lot of federation issues until recently. They are also very FOSS oriented rather than generic
I don’t even consider Beehaw a Lemmy instance anymore as they defederate LW and SJW
I should have probably said “generic US instance”, with communities like AskUSA, CasualUS, this kind of things
In looking into why they defederated, it seems due to the poor implementation of moderation tools and the insistence of the largest instances on unregulated signups, which tend to allow trolls to easily evade blocks? Though from Kbin.social, StarTrek.website, Discuss.Online, and now PieFed.social, I have been able to see Beehaw the entire time iirc.:-)
Speaking as one myself, I think Americans tend not to be so proud of our country, especially lately. The enormous exception is ofc conservatives, who don’t tend to come here.
Part of the reason might be the ginormous size of just thousands of miles separating coast to coast, and more besides to Alaska or Hawaii etc. And more than merely geography there are the cultural divides, between North vs. South, East vs. West, and Midwest, etc. Though none of those matter even half as much as rural vs. urban.
Liberals (urban) tend to feel part of a global community, while conservatives (rural) turn inwards and want to focus only on ourselves - at which point the liberals don’t feel comfortable in such a space, as e.g. X provides. So while there are very good reasons to be, feeling “proud to be an American”, especially on a day like today, seems ironically anti-American, if that makes any sense. But yeah, people definitely are going to want to bitch and moan about the election results - as we should - and ironically there too we will do so alongside our global compatriots, in a global community, and probably on an instance outside of the USA since as you said there isn’t a large major one that seems all that suitable:-).
What about Lemmy.today? You’d want to check with them first ofc. They don’t even have a blocklist at all though - not even the CSAM ones so I don’t know how they do that. At a guess it may cause them problems to send so much traffic.
Or perhaps one of the PieFed or Mbin instances? They federate community content the same as any Lemmy instance I thought. Oh but the moderation aspect might make that prohibitive.
It could be really good to have some of those, like AskUSA where people ask what US State they should move to, to get away from lack of abortion care within their own location:-(. Though ironically an educated European may provide better answers than a confident-sounding American spouting off nonsense, as usual!:-)
Though from Kbin.social, StarTrek.website, Discuss.Online, and now PieFed.social, I have been able to see Beehaw the entire time iirc.:-)
As you know, I’m not the biggest LW fan, but even I wouldn’t use an account defederated from LW, especially with SJW on top. You’re missing probably 80% of the active communities, and 15% of the remaining are on lemmy.ml
Part of the reason might be the ginormous size of just thousands of miles separating coast to coast, and more besides to Alaska or Hawaii etc.
Even with that, why is there no Californian or New York instance? Seems weird to me seen how populous and tech oriented those places are
It’s still weird to me that there is no US instance.
Damn good thing. We definitely don’t want one hosted in a fascist country.
Hey, we won’t be fascist for at least another month or two!? 🗓️
Yes, not until Jan. 20th (MLK Day, he’d be so proud!). But it’s not like someone’s gonna set up a big Lemmy server, then move it to a different country later.
