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SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Decoupling America’s Artificial Intelligence Capabilities from China Act of 2025’’.
SEC. 3. PROHIBITIONS ON IMPORT AND EXPORT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE OR GENERATIVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TECHNOLOGY OR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY
(a) PROHIBITION ON IMPORTATION.—On and after the date that is 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the importation into the United States of artificial intelligence or generative artificial intelligence technology or intellectual property developed or produced in the People’s Republic of China is prohibited.
Currently, China has the best open source models in text, video and music generation.
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The Land of the free sure likes taking away freedoms and banning stuff
That’s why I consider that tagline, ‘The Land of the Free,’ to be the failed punchline of a bad joke now. It hasn’t meant anything since before Reagan took office at least.
I don’t consider it valid so long as conscription exists, but now it’s an utter joke
People there have chosen that by voting republican. I mean, he told what he planned to do and got voted for anyway…
Freedom, but only for rich, white douchebags
That doesn’t sound like a free market to me.
China : Discovers Anti-gravity
USA : Law preventing study of anti-gravityNothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
These fucking clowns just refuse to learn about how technology works. Fucking morons.
The generation that can’t figure out their TV remote is attempting to legislate on cutting edge technology. Fucking series of tubes all over again. It never stopped though really.
The series of tubes is actually a better analogy than what this Bill imagines the internet to be.
This bill is likely sponsored by Sam Altman himself
You don’t expect this law to count for the people at the top, do you?
its probably not about that though.
Capitalism truly thrives on competition and innovation
US is getting very desperate
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They are afraid. Very afraid. Good.
I thought software and thus code was protected as free speech?
The right to free speak can be compromised if it interferes with other, more important rights…
… like the right of shareholders to make money.
Free speech and expression is one of the many previously-thought-to-be-inalienable rights that are in the current administration’s crosshairs. If I could flee this country for, say, the Netherlands, I’d do so in a heartbeat, unfortunately I can’t.
The Netherlands would be high on my list, too. What a pleasant place.
NJB’s praise of their infrastructure would have me sold on them if I could actually flee the US.
NJB
Neil jeGrasse Byson?
Not Just Bikes.
So you can’t download them, you should run them directly on tencent cloud or something? Smart…
I don’t even like ai but this just makes me want to download Deepseek as much as I can
Yes, that will show them for sure
Ah yes, the “free market” in action.
We are rotten to the core.
Not me. It’s the rest of you.
It is much worse. I hope I am reading it wrong, but:
The term ‘‘technology’’ […] includes […] any semiconductor, circuit board, operating system, graphics processing unit, central processing unit, tenor processing unit, field-programmable gate array, random access memory, hard drive, solid-state drive, dataflow architecture, or cloud-computing service, that is manufactured, designed, developed, supplied, deployed, completed, […] [etc.] to function artificial intelligence […] and any other hardware, software, equipment, device, component, robotic computer, processor, network […] that is manufactured, designed, developed, supplied, deployed, […] [etc.] to function artificial intelligence or generative artificial intelligence.
This would mean that importing and exporting literally any piece of IT equipment, from a Ubuntu installer to a RAM chip, is illegal. Good luck & have fun.
It’s good old “everything is now illegal” law, selective enforcement does the rest. Straight out of the young dictatorship handbook
Rip iPhone.
Yes, yes, burn it all. Make the people very very angry. It takes a lot to engage a Luddite and we need them all.
Time to start seeding DeepSeek R1 I guess.
I’m not even in to this shit and I’m going to download it right now because fuck those assholes.
Can someone explain briefly what I need to download that might not be available if this comes to pass? Like I did some searching and I saw stuff about Ollama but it wasn’t completely clear if that would be affected by this.
https://ollama.com/library/deepseek-r1
Very simple with ollama
So if I download this and somehow there is no longer a way to access the model online this will still work? I’m just a bit confused because I read a couple things that made it seem like even though the model is running locally it still needs a connection for some reason, if that isn’t true I’m sorry for the dumb question.
On first run it downloads the model, then you just run it locally
Thank you, that answers my question exactly.
So if I get a new computer in a few months it will no loner work. Maybe we can VPN into Sweden?
I assume you know you can transfer files from one pc to a other?
Jeeez, just copy the ollama’s directory (something like .ollama) from user’s dir to wherever. You can check and find the files inside. I find the published 14b really useful, it’s ten GB that think and reason in english.
Technically this isn’t the case. These are Deepseek distilled with Qwen and Llama depending on the weight, so they are no longer Deepseek.
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world this is the official, extremely large, one. https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1
holy shit, you weren’t kidding when you said it was large.
Well yes, it does specifically say so in the link. There’s also one with the full model in what I linked
Oh nice, when Ollama first had this up I don’t think the 671b model was there. I stand corrected on that!
Something about https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1 , or at least that’s the model that everyone’s been talking about recently. It looks like it’d be half a terabyte to clone the entire repo though, and I don’t know how to use it either …
Doesn’t matter. People in the US already have the model, so sharing it within the US wouldn’t be illegal, and the law would only apply to anything “imported” 180 days after the law is passed (if it’s passed at all).
Also, how “importing” is defined will matter for any future legal arguments, and I would imagine this law would eventually be struck down for being overbroad.
Run it using ollama in a terminal (like ollama run model_name), ask it a question.
Good luck trying to ban OSS next, which would criminalize basically everyone who’s ever used a browser that isn’t IE, everyone who’s ever used an Android phone or a Chromebook, everyone who’s ever used any modern audio or video codec as the bulk of those are OSS too, and would destroy both Big Data and the Cloud, both of which are primarily Linux-based, and send the US back to the web’s dark ages, as in going back to when BBSes were popular.
Also, since this bill punishes people by making them spend most of their lives in prison, how are they going to lock up everyone who’s ever used Chromium or Firefox browsers, for example, or everyone who’s ever used Android or ChromeOS, which is most of the country’s population at this point, should that ban extend to a general OSS ban? (this part was originally a reply but I moved it to the main post)
They’re american, they’d just pick one rich guy to ‘own’ all Foss projects and make it freenium within a year
Good luck with that too, especially as GPL3 has a clause specifically forbidding tivoization built into it.
The type of thing RH is doing with the RHEL EULA in order to attempt to circumvent GPL2 protections? Yeah, that wouldn’t fly under GPL3.
Til a judge ‘interprets’ that as being specifically about a company named TiVo or invalidates it in the supreme court.
Yk back in my day it was even unthinkable to have a president decide your gender for you, the precedent already being created is insane.
Criminalizing something broadly isn’t usually done with the intention of going after everyone who does it, it’s so when they do single out someone they can charge them even if they haven’t actually caught them doing anything wrong (besides the thing everybody does).
See also: the way laws about taxes and drugs are often enforced.
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