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In general:
W11: fire up office, oops wait, it wants to set itself as default and for some reason needs you to buy a one drive subscription for that. How about some copilot? Are you sure? How about we wrap it in edge? Oh, but you can install Libreoffice by all means, but it’s not going to be the default app right? RIGHT?!!!
Oh you want to save the file to your harddrive? Look, how do I put this,… there is no more harddrive.
Linux: type one line in the terminal and there you go. Write a novel if you want.
Me after using the KDE: how the fuck Linux is better Windows than Windows?
They were supposed to focus on window managing, ITS IN THEIR FUCKING NAME. Instead you need extra things like Powertoys for basic functions that KDE has integrated.
“Tech journalists” installing linux in 2025 like it’s this hot new tech is not exactly the early adoptership I’d expect from them :)
Every time anyone rejects Microsoft’s shitty bloatware/spyware it’s a win. I just converted a few months ago. Win11 is going to push more and more people away.
Ive been getting a taste of linux setting up a few raspberry Pis. Its been really fun and it got me looking at installing a linux distro on my PC. Probably ubuntu or ive heard good things about mint.
For ~97% of the computer using population it is a hot new tech.
Compared to the state of consumer-grade Linux 5 years ago to today, it’s absolutely a hot new tech.
One cannot understate the impact that the Steam Deck and Proton had on driving consumer-friendly features to Linux simply from the demand of an exploding user base.
I felt late to the party in 2003. Been quite the ride watching others suffer windows this long yet.
🤞pleasejustpickbazzite pleasejustpickbazzite pleasejustpickbazzite🤞
I’m going to install CachyOS, an Arch-based distro
oh god dammit
I’M FED UP, GOING TO INSTALL LINUX!
- picks a complicated distro where you really need to read the manual or do some heavy google searches to do gaming *
I’M FED UP, THIS IS TOO HARD, I’M GOING BACK TO WINDOWS!
Every. Single. Time.
Not really…
Cachy is one of the easiest distros to use
For real, it is 100% arch done “the right way” with sane defaults and thoughtful optimizations. Made the switch a few months back and hadn’t looked back. CachyOS is a wonderful project.
Easy for Arch. The Arch community is far too hostile for the first run for newcomers
Are you saying seasoned windows users can’t cope with LFS (linux from scratch) first time around? /s
I see your /s but we all watched Linux Sebastian burn an easy distro to the ground with ample warnings while refusing to read any information about the distro. And he’s on the long side of the Dunning-Kruger curve for windows.
I think we need everything to work out of the box on all major hardware, no terminal commands, video accelerators working by default and steam to be a one-click install.
Its been incredible watching him while my own IT career has grown and watching my networking knowledge continuously remain noticably ahead of his entire company’s. They finally have an actual network admin on staff so maybe they’ll actually have a network that isn’t completely flat…
I see your point but there are to many options and preferences. For one, the borders to what is “Major hardware” are very subjective. So are people’s need. (I’m your opposite: I must have a terminal, I don’t care one bit about video acceleration and and my interest steam is an absolute zero)
So do that and you might end up with a windows-alike crappy platform. My expectations (and/or) hopes are that different distro’s will keep focusing on different users groups. Some perfect for gaming, another for developers, a few for daily usage of email & browsing and so on
there are to many options and preferences
What you need isn’t what everyone needs. I suspect you’ll have a very hard time finding massive numbers of windows users who only need a terminal.
I sincerely hope that you don’t need one distribution for games and another for developers, Having to reboot to play games is why we’ve had such bad penetration for years.
Every distro needs to be able to handle all the video cards from the last decade. Lutris and Steam need to run really well everywhere or we’ll take forever to get proper market penetration.
If you want to use arch for the first time use an already setup distro like Manjaro.
Honestly, Day 1’ers, I’d rather they run Debian, Mint, Ubuntu, or Fedora. There are strong communities that are noob friendly. Go ahead and install Steam, get some games working, get their feet wet. 99% of the time, they don’t need more than basic stuff. Once they’re over being afraid of not being in windows, then start distro hopping to whatever they want.
I can really suggest Mint for beginners simply because it has an UI for about everything you need somewhat regularly. This means, that you can use GUIs to get familiar and aren’t forced to know your way around the terminal. Its the Ideal beginner Distros (at least from my experience)
That’s exactly it though. For most people using an OS isn’t about using the OS but about getting stuff done.
I don’t run an OS because I love writing config files and running obscure CLI commands. I run an OS because I want a working browser, text editor, development setup and games. The OS is nothing but a means to an end.
If I want to tinker, I got dozens of more fun projects in my life than trying to setup an OS.
And if there’s a good GUI way to do what I need, that’s a win, not a downside.
To put it differently: Do you want a hackable microwave that you can tweak and modify, where you can swap out the guts at any time, or do you want a microwave that heats your food? Most people are in the second camp, and PCs are just like microwaves a tool to get things done.
Not being forced to know your way around the terminal is an absolute win. Don’t be afraid, nobody’s going to take your CLI from you. It will always still exist. But dumping on people who don’t want to tinker but want their stuff to work without having to google and read through manuals is just elitism and nothing to be proud of.
Another good reason for having GUIs is, that you can learn the CLI while not being dependant on it.
AntiX for same reason.
Idk, i really disliked the UI and especially the application launcher.
This is exactly right. It’s a journey, not a race.
KDE Neon ftw
Cachy is a better starting point then Manjaro. Manjaro gets funky.
I disagree. If you want to use Arch for the first time, install it the Arch way. It’s going to be hard, and that’s the point. Arch will need manual intervention at some point, and you’ll be expected to fix it.
If you use something like Manjaro or CachyOS, you’ll look up commands online and maybe it’ll work, but it might not. There’s a decent chance you’ll break something, and you’ll get mad.
Arch expects you to take responsibility for your system, and going through the official install process shows you can do that. Once you get through that once, go ahead and use an installer or fork. You know where to find documentation when something inevitably breaks, so you’re good to go.
If you’re unwilling to do the Arch install process but still want a rolling release, consider OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. It’s the trunk for several projects, some of them commercial, so you’re getting a lot of professional eyeballs on it. There’s a test suite any change needs to pass, and I’ve seen plenty of cases where they hold off on a change because a test fails. And when it does fail (and it probably will), you just
snapper rollbackand wait a few days. The community isn’t as big as other distros, so I don’t recommend it for a first distro, but they’re also not nearly as impatient as Arch forums.Arch is a great distro, I used it for a few years without any major issues, but I did need to intervene several times. I’ve been on Tumbleweed about as long and I’ve only had to
snapper rollbacka few times, and that was the extent of the intervention.I agree… I went with arch because I like rolling release but wanted to force myself to learn how things work. Anymore, arch has just as much chance of breaking as any other distro, fairly low honestly. It does however have the most detailed documentation and resources available.
Now on CachyOs cause it’s quicker to setup and the team behind it is so damn on top of getting issues fixed asap.
Yes, Arch is really stable and has been for about 10 years. In fact, I started using Arch just before they became really stable (the /usr merge), and stuck with it for a few years after. It’s a fantastic distro! If openSUSE Tumbleweed stopped working for me, I’d probably go back to Arch. I ran it on multiple systems, and my main reason for switching is I wanted something with a stable release cycle for servers and rolling on desktop so I can use the same tools on both.
It has fantastic documentation, true, but most likely a new user isn’t going to go there, they’ll go to a forum post from a year ago and change something important. The whole point of going through the Arch install process is to force you to get familiar with the documentation. It’s really not that hard, and after the first install (which took a couple hours), the second took like 20 min. I learned far more in that initial install than I did in the 3-ish years I’d used other distros before trying Arch.
CachyOS being easy to setup defeats the whole purpose since users won’t get familiar with the wiki. By all means, go install CachyOS immediately after the Arch install, buy so yourself a favor and go through it. You’ll understand everything from the boot process to managing system services so much better.
Learning is good.
I know someone who after years of being told about gentoo, still refused to use the handbook to install it, had someone else install it for them, and gave up after a few months… recently revealed he thought it was a text only operating system. XD
Learning is good.
RTFM! :)
Exactly.
There’s a difference between gatekeeping and being transparent about what’s expected. I’m not suggesting people do it the hard way as some kind of hazing ritual, but because there’s a lot of practical value to maintaining your system there. Arch is simple, and their definition of simple means the devs aren’t going to do a ton for you outside of providing good documentation. If your system breaks, that’s on you, and it’s on you to fix it.
If reading through the docs isn’t your first instinct when something goes wrong, you’ll probably have a better experience with something else. There are plenty of other distros that will let you offload a large amount of that responsibility, and that’s the right choice for most people because most people don’t want to mess with their system, they want to use it.
Again, it’s not gatekeeping. I’m happy to help anyone work through the install process. I won’t do it for you, but I’ll answer any questions you might have by showing you where in the docs it is.
Yeah, there are many people that just want the system to work and not have to become full time geeks like some of us are. There are also plenty of distros, atomic or not, that provide that experience. Perfect match. There’s a distro for everyone, from anti-tech people to full blown rocket scientists.
I 100% agree. If you want the Arch experience, you should have the full Arch experience IMO, and that includes the installation process. I don’t mean this in a gatekeepy way, I just mean that’s the target audience and that’s what the distro is expecting.
For a new user, I just cannot recommend Arch because, chances are, that’s not what they actually want. Most new users want to customize stuff, and you can do that with pretty much every distro.
For new users, I recommend Debian, Mint, or Fedora. They’re release based, which is what you want when starting out so stuff doesn’t change on you, and they have vibrant communities. After using it for a year or two, you’ll figure out what you don’t like about the distro and can pick something else.
I’m voting for manjaro here too, it’s been working great for me for years. But noobs should 100% go for mint
Cachy’s not that bad for beginners. I just did a test install on an old Nvidia PC, and it works for gaming OOTB.
We’ve come a looooong way from Manjaro. I wouldn’t wish Manjaro on my worst enemy, to be clear.
I haven’t used Manjaro in many many years, but IIRC it was the first distro I used that reliably supported Wi-Fi.
i think i absolutely loved manjaro for the first week. then it just went downhill. i still think that manjaro had cool things. it’s been my favourite grub because of it being somewhat riced and always picking up whatever dual boot i had on different drives. still i would recommend manjaro only to those people who need to practice fixing broken distros. its really good at that.
I’m kinda surprised it’s still around, and popular.
I guess it still has a lot of SEO and such.
CachyOS has been flawless on my S/O’s desktop. From an easy install to plenty of documentation available, I couldn’t have asked for much more. During install, there’s an entire step dedicated to checking a box if you want to play games. (To enable non-free drivers).
I don’t think it was a poor choice.
Flawless wouldn’t require any documentation.
Everything requires some documentation.
They didn’t say it required documentation, they said it had plenty of documentation should you need it.
And I’m telling you to grab a dictionary and lookup what flawless means
Just a heads up- You appear to be interpreting things in a strictly literal sense.
Some people might view this as trolling.
That’s so passive aggressive it’s impressive.
Damnit, you’re right!
But for real, I think you misunderstand the point of documentation. Even if something were truly, literally flawless, having documentation would still be a net gain. It isn’t only to fix something when it goes wrong, but explains how things are working. If the only way for something to be literally flawless in your world view is for it to be so self explanatory that an idiot seeing it for the first time still understands it perfectly, nothing in computing can be flawless in that way.
The pedantry on this point is so unhelpful as to be actively harmful to the rest of the discussion.
There are instructions on your McDonalds coffee that say, “This coffee is hot.”
You might feel as though no documentation is necessary here, but clearly it was a critical miss for someone.
Yeah, a lady got third degree vagina burns and a fused labia from McDonald’s coffee. She needed surgery and skin grafts. She sued them and asked for her surgery bills paid, but the judge noticed that McDonald’s had already got a lot of complaints about serving dangerously hot coffee, and he decided to award her one full day’s worth of profits to teach them a lesson.
Are you saying McDonalds Coffee is flawless?
Non, monsieur. He is saying that any prosuct, whether flawless or not, must have proper information about it, since we are not born knowing how to use Windows, either.
I distro hop regularly, still have to see that one ‘flawless’ distro, or system for that matter.
Agree.
Pfft Ubuntu has existed for years.
Bazzite is much worse for a new user then cachy. Worse documentation and a load of quirks from being immutable.
Frankly they would be better off with mint unless they need very up to date hardware support for like a laptop.
I installed CachyOS for a weekend and it’s now been several months. I love it.
But I would never, ever recommend it to a new user. It still requires someone to be comfortable on the command line and it’s possible to break it if you don’t know what you’re doing.
Bazzite just works. You install it and start logging into your accounts. It’s nearly impossible for a newcomer to break, and perfect for the vast majority of new Linux users.
Recommending Cachy to new users hurts not only those users but the entire Linux ecosystem.
I don’t recommend Mint, either, but only because I am a KDE cultist, I hate Cinnamon, and every time I’ve tried it on anything I’ve had frustrating hardware issues that I have never had on Fedora.
I’m BlameTheAntifa and I have a distro-hopping addiction.
I’m BlameTheAntifa and I have a distro-hopping addiction.
“Hi, BlameTheAntifa.” The circle of disto-hoppers echos.
Guh, I’ve been running Mint for a couple of years now and the only thing I have had it not talk to was an obsolete audio interface.
Bazzite is good for people who break their computer constantly because it’s harder to break. Cachy is better for people who can be trusted with sudo
This. I mained Arch for 2 years and still can’t be completely trusted with sudo. Moved to Nobara, would recommend as well. Its a bit more advanced, but you don’t have to touch the command line if you don’t want to and setup is right there step-by-step when you first boot.
I did try Bazzite first. I just couldn’t get used to living the Flatpak life. I know you can force install native packages, but at that point why wouldn’t I just use Nobara, lol.
Drag tried Bazzite last year and hated it for the same reason as you. Now drag’s on Cachy and loves it. Drag did accidentally break the swap file entry in fstab and dealt with months of slow booting and freezing, but drag accepts that as drag’s own fault and fixed it. If a user is good natured about fucking their computer up with sudo, cachy is a great OS, and most users won’t even do anything complicated enough to risk breaking their computer that bad. Bazzite is for users who can’t fix it or won’t accept it when they do something stupid with sudo.
I agree. Too much handholding for me, imo. However, if I had a Steamdeck I might use it just for simplicity sake. If I wanted an immutable distro for my desktop I’d choose NixOS, tbh, but that’s on the opposite end of the complexity spectrum from Bazzite.
Are you looking for fellow Bazzite users? (I’m one of them)
Good to meet you brother/sister! We walk a rather lonesome road but glad I stand alongside you
I’m standing slightly to the left of you.
I am trying out Kinoite now but it’s very similar. I think the immutable distros are best for people who want a “Just works” experience to start with.
Sometimes I feel like I have to physically pull people away from things they aren’t going to like. Everyone wants to learn how to drive a semi with a b-train, but they should be starting on the good old reliable Camry.
As a veteran geek but absolute Linux noob, can you explain a bit the differences of Bazzite vs Mint? Just recently installed Mint on an old laptop, and it went quite smoothly… But the real test will be my plex server!
Mint is Ubuntu/Debian based and uses their Cinnamon desktop environment.
Bazzite is Fedora based and uses KDE as the desktop environment.
The biggest difference is that Bazzite is atomic or immutable distro. The core systems are read only so it’s harder to break. It’s also harder to tinker with. You’re mostly limited to packages that are available in their package manager. You can install other stuff via layering if you really need to tinker.
Bazzite is good for noobs looking for a gaming option because it’s “immutable” which means the OS filesystem can’t be edited, which makes it nearly impossible to break.
Mint is still very noob friendly, just not immutable. Both are solid options because neither one requires any command line to get it on-par with Windows.
Just went from Bazzite to Steam OS on my TV PC. It’s a little less flexible but I don’t use desktop mode for much on the TV or want to install anything outside a few emulators and external game launchers. I’ve had too many updating issues with Bazzite over the years. The recent deal breaker was sunshine broke preventing it from updating.
Everyone uses their computer differently and you’re binded by the distro that provides.
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Yeah, really do it ok? Not only are you helping yourself, you’re helping everyone by shoving it up the clueless execs at microsoft who still have no idea why people dislike their stupid spy AI thingy.
Gaming on Linux has gotten way better than what is was a few years ago.
I was blown away by it. Just install steam and maybe proton-ge and good to go. I recently installed CachyOS and that way I even skipped the driver install chore I usually had to do. Anno 117 just works out of the box. It has gotten so good and easy!
I’m using KRdp for the first time in several years today and am BLOWN AWAY by the quality of the connection. It is in virtually every regard as good as Windows’ RDP.
GeForce app for some cloud gaming on Anti-cheat and that’s a wrap. I don’t need anything else now.
Best desktop in the world, no joke.
Just be forewarned:
Nvidia requires a bit of work.
SeLinux….it is a giant bag of gotcha.
That all said I’m not regretting my conversion.
“It came out of the box this way. I hate it but I paid good money for the device I own to tell me what to do!”
Installed Mint last week. I already ported most of my personal stuff there ; as a user of FOSS software, it was a breeze. Still dual booting Windows because of work, but I’ll start trying to see if I can get the required tools to work on there too.
For now, my biggest issue was that connecting my Bluetooth headphones to both Linux and Windows was fucky but, lo and behold, there was a guide online that told me exactly how to make sure both OS had the same device ID.
It’s not a painless experience yet, but it’s way less painful than what it was running Win95 back then. And it feels so good to finally flip Microsoft the bird.
Have you run into the system clock issue yet?
I think I did, but nothing that a resync didn’t fix.
YOu didn’t (fully) fix it. This is something I don’t see a lot of people talking about regarding Windows/Linux dual boot.
Unix-like systems like Linux set the computer’s built-in real-time clock to UTC and then do any conversions to local time on the fly. I think that traces back to UNIX’s origins as a minicomputer OS; it needed to talk to other minicomputers across time zones from the beginning.
Windows, like DOS before it, is designed to sit on a desk by itself plugged into nothing but power and accept data one, maybe two floppy disks at a time. Why would the user care about anything other than the local time? Hell the original IBM 5150 didn’t even have a built-in RTC. It would forget what time it was when powered off and it would ask you when DOS booted.
Either OS can be set to do it either way in the modern era; pick one to change so that they don’t fight. It’s done with a registry edit in Windows or a bash command in Linux. Do one, or the other, but not both. I recommend changing Windows, because Windows will reset the RTC every daylight savings time and on a mobile system every time it crosses a time zone, Linux doesn’t.
The most successful Linux distros are ones that normal people are not aware they use at all. Most people dont install operating systems, they just use whatever comes with the device. To them its an appliance.
Android is a flavor of Linux and is widely successful. Ive seen libraries use Linux and a browser and the machines worked for decades. And there are quite a few Amazon tablets, ebook readers, etc… all using linux.
Theres a never ending number of examples out there.
Are you suggesting we should break into people’s homes and discreetly install Linux on their computers? Because I’m in
I think we need a new worm
This is epic 🤣
Sounds fun!
🤣 Thats pretty funny.
Looks like I finally found a purpose to live
I’ll leave my door open today. Please make it work and let me play games on steam without having to learn.
Seriously, I’m almost ready to try.
Nothing wrong with Arch as a distro base. The meme stuff is all bullshit. It is a peer of Debian and Fedora. These foundational community distros are not a good starting point for a beginner or for a painless consumerist experience but they are solid for experienced users and have the best support and documentation.
If you are approaching Linux from the PoV of someone who wants to learn rather than someone who wants a reliable consumer computing platform the big community distros are still absolutely the right way to go IMO.
People go on about Mint being friendly for users but under the surface it is Ubuntu which itself is pulling from Debian. People laud Bazzite despite it being Fedora based. ChromeOS is shipping Gentoo to school children. If you package Arch well and ship it to people like Valve has its an extremely pleasant consumer platform. CachyOS improves the arch installation and micro-optimises FPS but you can screw it up as easily as any other mutable Linux system so fundamentally it is not much better or worse than Mint or Ubuntu or Fedora for a consumer experience.
SteamOS, Bazzite and ChromeOS all recognise that immutability is the key to a reliable experience for consumers - an experience that surpasses Windows. Updates are the most likely way to break a system and the hardest thing for non expert users to troubleshoot and rectify. Immutable distros with good support for new hardware have to be the S tier choice for Windows refugees. I have never tried Bazzite and likely never will (I use arch btw, with one system being a cachyos hybrid) but on paper it seems like the most sane choice barring a general release of StreamOS. A distro like Mint might be user friendly but it is bringing nothing new to the table when it comes to a reliable experience for consumers.
The real solution for the majority of WIndows refuges is going to be pre-installs with the supplier guaranteeing all the hardware is supported like Steam Machine. That way you get rid of all the cursed Nvidia systems. I think something like PopOS is the wrong way to do it for normies as the old LTT videos demonstrated, it is still a fragile system for naive users underneath the friendly skin.
I think you need to revisit a modern Debian 13.x distro. From install to hardware support with effortless kde plasma and a stable software level easily extensible with flatpak, it’s what Ubuntu was 10 years ago.
Anyone who says to avoid it today, especially with the AI and rocm/cuda apt packages that just work out of the box, I’m convinced haven’t considered it from an eager beginner perspective in recent form.
I still use Debian all the time. Have for over quarter of a century. I develop in a debian container and run Debian in production. For years I used unstable, pinning etc on desktop/laptop and can make Debian work on modern hardware. I tried arch and was suprised how much I liked it. It is a very vanilla upstream experience. The Debian maintainers have added a lot of baggage over time and some of it annoys the hell out of me (particularly when they add shit patches to ssh). Otherwise it might have been my distro for life.
All Linux regular distros give the user complete control over their system (as they should) and that can be a problem for people coming from Windows. Microsoft had to protect them from deleting their system directory because it turns out people are actually that stupid. People like Linus Sebastian get views telling a Youtube audience of millions how one command made his Linux install unusable. And it is a legit criticism for a typical Windows refugee. We need to re-learn all the shit Microsoft discovered over the last 30 years about what complete morons their users can be because we never cared about that. Linux was for power users and destroying your system a right of passage.
Our football team preferences make no difference to Windows refugees. They want a game console experience, an android/ios experience. Something better than the shitshow that is Windows. We can do that. I have never used Bazzite and it might be shit but they are trying to address those users. SteamOS and ChromeOS do a very good job providing a safe install for non-technical users based on arch and gentoo. The base distro ultimately doesn’t matter as much as we think it does. The differences between Ubuntu and Debian aren’t that huge. But you ship updates as a signed immutable root with a fallback to the previous install and run everything else out of user storage and your in consumer appliance territory.
I’m an experienced Linux user, I put Bazzite on my old machine that I’m using as an HTPC.
It’s imperfect. The install process is quite brittle, especially if you’re doing something as mundane as “I want the OS on this SSD and my home folder on that SSD”.
Idk I like that it has its own dedicated wiki instead of hopping forums all the time. And recompiling deb to work in your system isn’t that hard, somene might have already done the work for you in aur.
supplier guaranteeing all the hardware is supported
This is really harder said than done. Its implications are often quite deep and misunderstood.
The simplest example I can give is razer backlit keyboards and mice, which gamers seem to love. Razer’s software makes them truly shine and that software just isn’t available on linux. Open source alternatives exist and they do the job, just not as well as official software does. I do hope windows gaming refugees wont be swayed back when they discover not all hardware will “just work”, or at least work just as well as on windows. With Bazzite being a “gamer” distro, I wonder if they made any strides here, though I highly doubt it, else we’d see it propagate to other distros.In my own experience, I was sad to see no software support from canon, which meant I couldn’t transfer files from my camera to my PC via wifi. Its a small price to pay, but it needs to be payed non the less.
The only thing that sucks about switching to linux is moving my external NTFS USB drives to my new linux server.
Linux HATES NTFS, hates usb drivers, and hates external drives that aren’t formatted to ext4. fstab doesn’t work for my WD Elements, so i just gave up and shucked the drive and put it inside.
I can’t fit 5 3.5" hard drives in my SFF dell 3070, so i’m stuck on windows right now, but they keep doing random updates the last few weeks and my windows explorer freezes constantly and my computer barely works. So i’m going to have to switch to linux and possibly reformat all 36TB’s to ext4. Not excited about that at all.
So either reformat all my external drives, buy a very expensive NAS with an external SATA port and hope my motherboard recognizes them.
If you going to install Linux, install something basic like Ubuntu, fedora, mint and pop is!
Now tons of people will start searching for cachyos, because the vegre did.After breaking my hard drive with Bazzite not understanding immutability and trying to bypass it with permissions changes,I switched to Garuda as a beginner. It’s Arch based.
It has been easy, gaming just works, updates just work, it came with the drivers I need.
All this Arch hate needs to go away. It’s not what it was. I haven’t had to learn anything more complicated than Windows was.
There’s no arch hate, it’s just not a distribution for new users. Your downstream distribution might be a bit better at handling the arch quirks by default, but i guarantee you it doesn’t go through the same testing that new Fedora solutions go through before new releases for example. I’m glad you found something that suited you, but for most people, people that will never try to bypass the immutability in the first place, Bazzite is better ootb.
Exactly! make it easy simple and the make them install Arch or any other distro.
I’m not going to dwell on how annoying it is that it took people THIS LONG to get off the Windows train. I’m just happy to see the world changing for the better.
Welcome to civilization, new Linux users!
Probably due to gaming. Its amazing I can get adult foreign novel games to work on Linux through proton. It just works nowadays when back in the day, you had to tinker with wine and winetricks for so long. That was the last hurdle for me to overcome the barrier of using Linux.
It was for me as well. Proton has been mostly there for years. I’m about to hit year 4 of gaming only on Linux.
I think the last hold out is kernel-level anti-cheat. Hoping it just goes away and consumers stop supporting it. One can dream.
I don’t really play many multiplayer games anyway and the ones I do have proton eac (Arc, ER) so that wasn’t as much of a concern for me.
I mean, Ubisoft and EA both still have business models, somehow. It’s kinda wild what people will put up with.
There’s a whole bunch of academic shitware that doesn’t work on Linux. Last time I was in college the math textbook came with a code to a website that wanted to install some Wolfram thing, I dropped out again, shit like that.
A lot of engineering software and CAD isn’t present. You just turn up to the town council with the bridge you’ve designed in FreeCAD. See how that works out.
Business software is a wild ride. It’s some mishmash of Windows software, AS400 software, web portals and iPad apps. I genuinely don’t know if I could rent a storefront downtown, fill it with merchandise, and successfully run a business with nothing but x86 machines running Linux.
I left last year around December because I realized how well my Steam Deck ran games. I’ve dabbled with Linux over 10 years now, but gaming really is the only thing I bought my desktop computer for. It has an NVIDIA GPU in it, so I was a little wary of messing my stuff up by installing openSUSE Tumbleweed, but I had a spare SSD from a laptop that finally gave out on me, and installed that into the desktop.
Color me surprised when I find out just how much better Linux is that day (and even today!) than it was all those years I had tentatively tried distros like PopOS/Manjaro/Fedora/Debian/ElementaryOS/etc!
I say this every time I talk about Linux now, but I actually love my computer and being on it again. With Windows, I just wanted it to get the hell out of my way and let me play my damn games (I have a very limited amount of time when I get home from work to do anything I want to do, babysitting my OS is not something I want to do with that limited time)! With openSUSE, I feel totally in control and have my system set up the way I want it to.
There were some things I definitely had to get used to, seeing as I never had to research issues I was having with Windows (never had a problem in the 20 years I’ve been using them, EXCEPT for Windows 8. That was a big piece of flaming garbage, as is Windows 11. 7 and 10 were okay for me though).
Since last year, I have had to login to Windows only to mod my games and move them back over to my Linux SSD (which Linux allows me to pull files from my Windows drive, and is SICK by the way!) and I think maybe play ONE single game because of those mods or A mod. Totally worth it, all said and done!
With Windows, it feels like I’m stepping into someone else’s home. With Linux, it feels like MY home. :-)
