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    Remember Kids: Drugs are bad! Except for coffee, which lets you work harder and increases your employers profits.

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    I had to go to the company doctor years ago, it was mandatory when you just started working there.

    One of the questions was how much coffee I consume each day.

    “1 on some days 2” I answered.

    He goes off by saying that’s great, 2 cups is the max you should drink each day because if you get too much caffeine in your system it builds to much pressure on your muscles or nerves, I don’t remember.

    After that, we looked at each other in silence for a good 10 or 15 seconds before I began stammering: “cu… cups?? No, no. I meant 1 or 2 pots a day…”

    He had mini meltdown and went off on me how bad that was for my body.

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      Arteries* - the big main pipes for blood that gets tapped leading into all your veins in all your limbs and organs

      Caffeine increases heartrate similarly to exercise but unlike exercise your arteries don’t open up for caffeine. So you’re increasing flow but the pipes can’t handle it all, meaning the heart has to PUSH HARDER and eventually this will lead to severe fatigue and heart failure. If you have additional risk factors like a high cholesterol diet (lots of meat) or are overweight then the arteries themselves can also become clogged and fail.

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        I find it scary that I’ve never had a doctor bring any part of this up

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          It’s one of those things where its a very normal slow death over the course of decades, less harmful than smoking or alcohol, so it often gets brushed off as low priority. The real issue isn’t even coffee, imo, but people who take 400mg caffeine energy drinks daily or even multiple times per day.

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          That’s probably because it’s massively overblown. Drinking just a few cups of coffee a day is perfectly fine. Energy drinks are the devil’s urine tho.

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          Yeah I was just explaining what the doctor would have said, since you seemed confused about “muscles or nerves”.

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            Much appreciated to take the time to do that. My story and your explanation can educate someone that comes across it.

            Stay awesome dude.

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        Is that true though?

        I mean as a layman is sounds right but I know better than to trust internet strangers so I’m gonna be the jerk today and ask for some studies on that. Please.

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          I am the one singular internet stranger that you can trust completely. You do not require to read any AP Biology Textbook or look at any studies. Everything I’ve ever said to anybody was the 100% pure unfiltered truth, now and forever.

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    Caffeine has got to be among the shittiest drugs to get addicted to. There’s no euphoria; you just get anxiety and can’t sit still. And then in a couple of hours you get tired and want to go to sleep.

    I just don’t understand how people get addicted to the stuff. Even when I needed to drink it for my job, the moment I quit that place was the same moment I quit drinking coffee. It’s simply not a fun drug at all. There are much better stimulants out there.

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        Is that nicotine, or just the substances its usually consumed with? Google isnt giving any good answers.

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        At least with nicotine you get a bit of a buzz. Especially if you haven’t smoked/vaped in years. A nicotine buzz can feel like a small hit of weed when you have no/low tolerance.

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      Because coffee is fucking delicious. At least good coffee is. No one drinks most dont drink coffee for the caffeine, it’s for the taste and warmth.

      Edit: citation is my ass. You all coffee haters in here?

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      It really does suck. You feel tired sooner and right before that you are anxious and jittery

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      I mean are most caffeine enjoyers addicicted? I don’t think so.

      I drink ~ 1 Liter of coffee a day but it’s because I work a 10 hours shift, 4 hour round trip commute, and get 5 - 6 hours of sleep. I never really crave or need caffeine but it does help keep me from falling asleep at the wheel and dying

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        Even if you’re not addicted, that whole everything you just said is terrible for you, and I say that as someone who’s lived that life before.

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          You’re 100℅ correct, thanks for your perspective. Aiming to get out of my current work situation in the next few months.

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      I have a friend who pretty much drinks nothing but tea. No water, coffee, alcohol, soft drinks etc. And he does get his 2-3 litres of fluids per day in like that.

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          Im in the alps, so I have the privilege of having access to virtually free and safe to drink, but also tasty. It’s the cheapest, easiest way to do something good for my health, so i do it. 2-3 litres is usually the recommendation i see and hear everywhere.

          Tbh I sometimes drink close to 4 litres, i have to watch my electrolytes more than anything.

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          That sounds about right for me… I have 250ml when I wake up, I’ll have 250-300ml of coffee, then I drink a 1L carafe of water while working. In the evening I’ll have a couple glasses of water and/or a large cup of herbal tea. Sometimes I’ll drink 2 carafes of water.

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          Tea doesn’t have that much usable caffein if you let it steep longer than maybe 3 minutes. Also, we don’t know how diluted the tea is.

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          is he not dead

          He’s doing great. He’s Irish (as in, born, raised, and living in Ireland), I think it’s pretty normal over there

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              Hm, I lived with him and his family for half a year when we were both 16 and most people seemed to drink this much tea

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    So that’s the biggest benefit of Keurig machines. Since they only dispense specific measured quantities, each cup is the same size

    Edit- autocorrect

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      If you filter coffee through a paper filter then there are negligible health benefits to drinking coffee which are probably more than offset by the caffeine.

      If you don’t filter it through a paper filter then the cafestol probably negates the benefits before you have to weigh them against the negatives of the caffeine.

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        Could you be more specific about the negligible health benefits of coffee and the downsides of caffeine? As a regular coffee drinker, I’ve done some searching to try and gauge the long-term risks of consuming ~100-200mg of caffeine per day, and couldn’t really find anything. The medical sources I’ve seen basically say the long term risk is practically non-existent unless you have a specific sensitivity to caffeine, but I’m curious if you’ve seen something different.

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          It’s linked to increased blood pressure, increased risk of heart disease, kidney problems, etc, but as you mention there’s not anything rock solid and there’s also relatively recent studies that show positive effects.

          For people that intake less than 400mg a day.

          That’s the tricky bit. Do you know how many mgs of caffeine you take in on a daily basis?

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            Right, yeah that’s sort of the conclusion I’ve reached - sort of a “correlation may not imply causation” type situation.

            I drink one 300g cup of coffee a day, except on very rare instances where I’ll have like two or three cups in a day. My average daily caffeine intake is probably around ~100mg, which is well under any demonstrably dangerous limits that I’ve seen.

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          I’m not a doctor nor am I an expert, so hopefully not being taken as an authoritative source here, but my understanding is similar to yours regarding caffeine.

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        Yes but 6-∞ Is better

        I HAVENT SLEPT IN DAYS WHEN I CLOSE MY EYES ALL I SEE IS ANOTHER CUP OF COFFEE. I NEED MY DIRTY BEAN WATER!!

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    As much as I like at some time before 14:00 'o clock and then none.

    Caffeine has about 8hrs half-life and blocks a few key receptors in the brain, so it will only mask the tiredness you build up over the day.

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        If I would drink any coffee in that time, (even worse with/or booze) I would be still up the next day by a large margin. :(

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          Fair enough - everyone has a different reaction. I probably also should have mentioned the hash and beer that usually follow this, always end up ready for bed by 0200ish myself.

          Hooray for legal poly drug abuse! (?)

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    Ooh, I haven’t tried the cannon thing yet… why did I never think of that?c