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    Not a fan of how many innocent people will die from another pandemic, but I don’t think I’m going to be upset if the anti-vaxxers select themselves out of the population.

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      I wish they would do so without murdering immune compromised neighbors nor negligent homiciding their children.

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      This stuff will make us all go vegan. With a mortality rate of 50%, there won’t be any anti-vaxxers as everyone will be scared for their lives.

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        I’m going to miss dairy cheese but I am willing to accept dramatic reductions in non-vegan food for the good of the world. Some people just lose their mind over the idea of eating less animal products though.

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        This isn’t how people work I think. Instead you will have people who have been primed by prior experience that their ignorance worked out. EG people who by dint of age and health only ever had <1/10th of 1% of dying from covid didn’t get vaccinated and had covid 3 times and are fine LEARNED that vaccinating isn’t important.

        If there is a 50% mortality event they will have learned that their shit works long enough to catch it and die while listening to their facebook groups tell them they just need to take some vitamin C. They’ll keep telling each other its all a scam, just normal flue, someone will chime in that they’ve already had it months prior to this being even possible. They’ll shit talk until they die in their houses.

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          The stupid “I did it and I’m fine” line of thinking makes for a really convincing argument for a lot of people. It’s messed up.

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    If anyone wants help going vegan, I’d be happy to help. Even if it’s infeasible to get enough people in the world to stop eating animals fast enough to avert the next pandemic, there is evidence that people who eat plant-based have better outcomes from getting sick, as well as just getting sick less in general. Not to mention getting animal products out of your homes reduces one of the vectors through which pathogens can spread. So at the very least you’d be giving yourself your own best chance (just keep in mind it’s no replacement for vaccinations!)

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=047C-mMQpSE

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      there is evidence that people who eat plant-based have better outcomes from getting sick

      Sounds like a steak side salad would be beneficial.

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        No, no it would not be beneficial. That would be the opposite of beneficial (unless it’s plant-based steak).

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    The highly virulent B3.13 form of the H5N1 virus has already led to the culling of 90 million domestic birds in the US alone since 2022. The CDC says the risk to the general public from the H5N1 strain is currently low, with the 11 infected so far in the US reporting mild symptoms.

    Yet a single confirmed death of a vulnerable person from the related H5N2 virus in Mexico serves as a stark reminder of the risks involved, should the pathogen evolve.

    Of note, the H5N2 virus is a completely different strain of influenza from what this article is about, and this guy, who had severe comorbidities, is the only known person in the entire world to have contracted it. This case is completely unrelated to the H5N1 outbreak, but I guess it “serves as a stark reminder.”

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      I’m nearly as far from an expert on infectious diseases as it gets, but - and if anyone who knows about influenza reproduction can chime in - I remember reading that influenza has incredible abilities to mutate wildly and recombine. The analogy was like, if human reproduction is like taking two decks of cards and randomly shuffling half of each deck together, then influenza is like taking any number of decks, randomly chopping up and re-splicing portions of random individual cards together, as well as resorting all of them back together without any regard for whether the results are going to even produce anything that can live or not. But the reproductions and randomizations are so voluminous that it doesn’t matter - at least some of it will stick.

      In other words, in addition to the wildly rapid mutation capabilities these viruses have - if you have animals that are carrying more than one strain of influenza simultaneously, those two or more strains can produce hybrids.

      But again: citation needed.

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    Gee, maybe this is why “why is my dog/cat bleeding from the eyes” and similar Google searches have been trending around industrial scale meat processing hotspots for months.

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    It’s almost like exploiting and killing trillions of sentient beings just so you can have five minutes of mouth pleasure is an inexcusably shitty thing to do and has its consequences. Let’s keep it up /s

    Seriously, most zoonotic diseases and antibiotic resistance could be prevented entirely if we’d simply stop doing the most absurdly cruel things to animals. You should be vegan and be lobbying your governments to end subsidies to animal agriculture and replacing it with subsidies for other things we can eat.

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      exploiting and killing trillions of sentient beings just so you can have five minutes of mouth pleasure

      no one does that

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          I like the militant ones. it’s the ones that can’t stop spreading mistruths like evangelicals that bother me.

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        The meat people eat is produced by killing animals. That’s exactly what is being done, on insane scale. Billions of animals being treated as products.