• YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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      I mean it is a legit philosophical argument. One of my mother’s friends, whom I respect very much, told me she saw gold and white. So there is some merit to the conversation.

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    Human vision is an illusion. It’s mostly inferred, and not representative of how the world actually looks, and I think that’s pretty cool and profound.

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    I don’t even understand the point of this. I see a black dress with a blue apron and a yellow dress with a white apron. Is that wrong?

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      Turn your phone horizontal (with locked orientation), now put one finger from your left hand and one finger from your right hand to the areas above outside the boxes.

      Voilà! The boxed areas are the same.

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        Ohh, the boxed areas. Okay, I see that the boxed tan color looks darker next to black and lighter next to yellow. I’m not seeing this effect on the boxed bluish color. I thought the point was to show why some people thought the original black and blue dress was white and gold. That’s okay, doesn’t matter.

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      The blue and the yellow are the same color (cover up the rest of the picture, there is no gradient in the bar). Same thing for the white and the blue, isn’t that strange?

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            Let me be more clear - I cover the ENTIRE IMAGE except for like an inch opening, and it’s still eiher black/blue or yellow/white. I can otherwise see the whole color spectrum quite well, so I dunno what’s going on but that’s how it is. Not a big deal though, I read up on the original dress thing and my curiosity is satisfied, but thanks for replying.

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              No, you’re absolutely right.

              These people either have some medical condition they need to see an optometrist for, or are literally just trolling.

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                What do you think the image is trying to show?

                You’re clearly supposed to see the two dresses as different colors. The actual illusions are the rectangles. They even have lines between them so you can see the color doesn’t change, yet one apron looks white and one looks blue.

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                I just tried it together eith my GF. She doesn’t see the colors change. I block out the blue and they become gold/white to me. Doesn’t work the other way around seemingly.

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                No I was looking at the wrong areas. To me the tan area between the lines looks darker on the left (next to the black) and lighter on the right, next to the yellow. Ok, but I don’t get how this is supposed to explain why people thought a blue and black dress was white and yellow. Doesn’t matter tho.

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                  It’s essentially highlighting the ambiguity the colors can convey. Because our eyes don’t see in isolation from our brains, we don’t see based on the actual reflected color, but based on the contrast between those colors and context clues. We essentially have white balance and color correction baked into our vision,which is part of why photos without that look weird. Lacking context you process the colors differently.

                  In this case people saw a blue and black dress and lacking visual context they either compensated for sunlight or the compensated for shade. The contrasts involved (black/white, blue/yellow) are because opposite compensations maintain contrast while changing brightness.

                  This image has someone wearing the dress photographed with the white balance specifically off so that you can maybe see what other people were implicitly correcting for.

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    I have no idea what must be wrong with someone’s eyes to call that dress white and gold. I mean it was always a stretch, the shadow/lens on top of it would have to be fucking BLUE to color it something similar.

    Even then it sounds stupid to go with that stretch of it being white and gold.

    My working theory is that people who saw it gold and white were exposed to lead.

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          People view the image in different conditions. There’s so many factors involved. How bright your surroundings are, the make and size of your display device, how you perceive colors. Professionals perform color grading to avoid ambiguity like this in movies and such. Even your cultural expectations are hypothesized to change how you perceive the dress. (Eg. living in a desert environment can make you expect more yellow shading)

          There’s a similar illusion called the spinning dancer, where some people simply cannot see the image spinning one way or the other, while some can even switch between them. There’s more information in the dress to make an objective assessment, but if that information isn’t observed or obscured by the aforementioned reasons, it’s totally understandable. That’s what OP’s image is showing.

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          Exactly lol. The rest of the scene had clear context that the image was overexposed and the white balance was too warm.

          Anyone that understands photography instantly understood what was happening in that image. I’ve had people try to fight me and tell me I’m wrong about that, but I’ve been a professional photographer/videographer for over 15 years. Quickly identifying a technical issue with an image like that is like breathing to me. I do it every single time I take a picture, so over 10,000 a day on average. All I can say is trust me. that image was overexposed and too warm, You can tell by the way it is in the background, and if you can’t see that then my words won’t help you.

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      Shadows do generally overrepresent the color blue due to rayleigh scattering.

      Brains are also very quick to make assumptions and also very rigid about keeping them. The spinning dancer illusion, even when you already know you can and have seen it spinning both ways, it can be difficult to switch percepts.

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          Sometimes I can and sometimes I can’t. When I looked this up earlier, I was able to switch twice. But yeah, if I’m just staring at it, it’s basically impossible.

          I switched the first time because I looked at the reflection underneath the dancer, and that seemed to remove just enough visual context that I could reorient my perception.

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      I struggle to see it as black and blue, the white and gold interpretation has been the one I’ve almost always seen

      It’s not a stretch by any means

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      I was able, very briefly and not since, to see white and gold. Otherwise, I thought they were all crazy.

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        Same! I wish I could flit between like I can with most illusions. I’m just happy I know I saw it the other way once at least.

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          It’s a weird type of illusion because even knowing the truth I can only see the white and gold, even when the lighting in the photo is adjusted to correct the overexposure my brain still reads it as white.