[a green flag with a leaf stands above an utopian green city with vegetation and clean energy]
Greenists believe that the world should be a better place for green people, and everyone else too
[an orange fascist-looking star in a gear logo stands above a bleak concrete city]
Orangites believe that the world should only have orange people, and that all greens should be hung
[an orange character speaks smugly, in a bedroom that contains an orangite logo and a greenist/orangite flag]
Me?
I’m a greenist-orangite,
why do you ask?
Ideology/politics hedging. Off chance your main fails, got a fallback. Fuck that. Great comic.
Green: “We think everyone should exist peacefully together.”
Orange: “We believe you should all be shot!”
This shithead: “Why don’t you two find a way to meet in the middle?”
Oranges could all get shot and Greens live peacefully together, instead of the extremist proposition by Greens for them both to peacefully exist together.
Person A: “2+2=4”
Person B: “2+2=6”
‘Centrist’: “Fellas, calm down! Can’t we compromise and agree 2+2=5?”Removed by mod
That’s pure skill. You are amazing at converting Ambien and whiskey to felonies.
Possibly the best turnaround for this exchange I’ve seen. Congrats.
150% is fantastic efficiency
✨(he/him) releveraging existing ambien/whiskey synergies✨
EU politics: “We promise to establish robust processes for developing a common agreement on the result of 2+2 and will reconvene to assess progress, in 2+2 years.”
EU politics: “2+2 = austerity policy, 2+3 = austerity policy, 2-2 = austerity policy…”
This person is literally saying there’s no difference between 5 and 6. They’re basically an orangite in practice, because math.
The Greenist isn’t green enough. I’m not voting to send a message they need to earn my vote.
“This orange looks more green than the other orange, I’m going to vote for it and call myself a greenist.”
“Oh why is everything still orange? I voted for the green shade of orange!”
So you’re choosing less green. Got it.
the green shade of orange
…yellow?
It might be this:
So brownish yellow-orange?
Orange = yellow+red
Green = yellow+blue
Green orange = 2yellow+red+blue
Green orange = 2yellow+purple?
Only there’s no greenish party, there’s only orange and 99% orange 1% green, and the orange-greenist is a 99 year old person running 99% orange policy to appeal to moderate oranges
You literally are in the third panel.
The third panel is a centrist. It is not someone who is so green that nothing is green enough for them.
I’m mocking the leftists who flooded Lemmy with their “don’t vote for Kamala” message.
… Think you missed the words: “world” and “everybody else”
No I didn’t. Extreme Greenists will be telling everyone in 3 years to not vote for Mamdani because of the police killing citizens that happened under his term.
Its not about police killing per se its more so the lack of accountability in police killings, since it’s unavoidable shouldn’t every police shooting have some kind of scrutiny. That’s the issue.
That’s because you aren’t an extremist.
The extremists wouldn’t vote for Obama because he killed some people while ignoring that he killed less than any other President in the last 50 years. In 3 years it will be “Mamdani the citizen murderer” while ignoring that ( I expect ) he’ll have less deaths than any modern mayor.
The extremists wouldn’t vote for Obama because he killed some people while ignoring that he killed less than any other President in the last 50 years.
Do you have an actual source for that? Considering the hundreds of thousands of people he had killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, I find it hard to believe his death toll was lower than Clinton’s, or hell, even Bush Sr.
I think you’re fighting against some super niche extremists then. And if they are so niche why are they living rent free in your head?
Exactly. You are the green/orange in the third panel, complaining about being told you’re too orange to be green.
You seem to have not understood the comic
And you’re clearly the second panel because of your complete inability to understand basic concepts
…The irony of this reply is fucking painful.
Ultra-greens: “That green looks a little yellow-green. That’s too close to orange! I’m so inclusive and tolerant. Why can’t everyone just coexist like me?”
Look, if you really can’t cope with not having the moral high ground of being green, maybe instead of bitching about it you can ditch the orange and get with the program.
Ultra-green: continues to dig heels in and insists that yellow-green is indeed orange, and that only super-ultra greens like themself are truly green and thus have the moral high ground.
Keep bitching all you want, man, we both know what you are.
I’m socially greenist and fiscally orangite
Spoiler, orangites are also shit for the colorconomy.
The greenists would like to help the homeless and feed the needy after they block an industry and remove those dirty jobs, if only it didnt ruin the character of the neighborhood.
Greenists would open up newer green industries and create new infrastructure projects. With all the help being thrown around the might not even be people going hungry or ending up on the streets.
What’s an example of a green industry. The failed battery plant we threw billions at, or reselling Chinese coal produced solar panels?
Nuclear power, solar/wind/hydro/thermal? power, public transit projects, forest management and other ecological projects that can all create jobs.
Which battery project in particular are you saying is a failure? Can you provide a source for what makes it a failure?
I’ve heard recently that solar panels have been having breakthroughs that extend their useable-life.
I’m sure ramping up and subsidizing local production of solar panels could make it more eco-friendly. However, I’m personally interested in nuclear power, specifically getting thorium reactor projects going.
Is this outlined in a plan with feasibility at all, perhaps by a green party, it sounds like it would be an interesting read. Nuclear sounds good, and I know Brookfields Westinghouse does it already, I just dont understand how the other industry would outcompete China in manufacturing. They use coal to produce their solar and wind, and they have all the refining capacity. Which I’d also assume the material refining would need to be carbon free here to satisfy a green party, making us even less competitive in manufacturing green products.
It’s feasible by taxing corporations more, that’s the important part.
You don’t necessarily need to compete with China if your panels are made with more ethical and sustainable business practices. In theory you make a deal with your allies to buy yours because you went the extra mile to do it right. You’d want other goods in such a deal though if you want to take the pressure off of China because they are able to produce theirs via less sustainable practices.
On the grand scale, we’re pretty late in terms of manufacturing to compete with China unless we did something more drastic like convincing a lot of people to live and work in the US. We could be a bit protectionist about our fledgling industries if we want to scale manufacturing more, but that will bring some trading trade-offs with any countries that we don’t have a trade deal with.
Our economy is mostly service oriented because we did all this offshore manufacturing decades ago, but now workers have less access to manufacturing jobs although there is still room in the market for our manufacturing sector to grow.
This doesn’t hold, because it means you’re only accepting things if they favor yourself.
all greens should be hung
That’s a big ol grenis
Thanks for correctly understanding the plight of orangites.
I’m a centrist, a down-to-earth person, I believe that the truth is always somewhere in the middle! 🤡
Yeah, in the middle. Only some people should be shot.
Billionaires?
Nah, I want them stripped of everything they own and must work menial jobs making what they paid their lowest earning employee for the rest of their natural life.
I would prefer establishing a non capitalistic society and letting them keep all of their money - and nothing else. Let them eat cash.
A non-capitalist society doesn’t mean a moneyless society.
Same, but I want them working even harder jobs for unemployed pay.
They only got half their lives left, gotta make it worse for whatever time they got.
Only after instituting a robust death tax
I mean this is largely the consensus position in most societies today. Unfortunately.
So… brown?
this is any coorporation ever
And that kids is what “socially liberal, fiscally conservative” means.
Exactly why libertarians deserve less respect than the fascists they enable.
and the other centrists with em. every single person who works in a bipartisan manner across the aisle to push a fascist agenda is a fascist enabler.
Paradox of tolerance
Uh… no? This comic has absolutely nothing to do with the paradox of tolerance.
Care to explain why you think that?
This comic is about clowns (nominally) combining murderous hateful ideologies with ideologies concerned with improving people’s lives; no part of it is concerned with what happens if you tolerate hateful murderous ideologies.
I saw it as a swipe at centrism. The green-orange clown being the centrist under review.
And it is a paradox of tolerance issue: trying to tolerate both a friendly ideology and a murderous one merely leaves space for the murderers to murder.
trying to tolerate both a friendly ideology and a murderous one merely leaves space for the murderers to murder.
Sure, but the comic never actually addresses that though; it’s more a swipe at the absurdity of the idea itself.
It doesn’t spell it out, it leaves it as an exercise for the reader. But it does tee it up for us!
Interesting because factions in Belfast use those exact colors.
I was going to say, this is why the Irish flag looks the way it does
Man it’s sometimes awkward being an orange, those fucking orangites give us all a bad name, but now a lot of greenists think I’m one of them. It sucks because I’m a greenist but seeing a lot of hate towards orange people because of those orangists hurts a lot.
I know that there’s a lot of history of orange people oppressing green people but I feel that greenists hating orange people is hypocritical and antithetical to the belief system, but any time anyone says it’s not cool everyone jumps in going “just like an orange, saying ‘that’s not like me!’”. That stuff is even being used by orangites as a recruitment tool for young oranges, saying “see? They hate you!”. We greenists need to stop it but it’s so cathartic to some green people who have felt so oppressed by the orangites that they refuse to.
Greenists have the right idea, and I’m not going to stop being one, but seeing the same hate from my own side makes it hard.
“I’m an orange but want I green pussy”
Oh, because of the flag I thought this was a satire of anarcho-communism, since commie states massacred anarchists
I think it is? The only other ideology would be anarcho-capitalism (lol), but a star on a gear as symbology would seem to preclude that. All in, it’s not a very coherent comic.
I thought the obvious subject was National Socialism. The OP uses orange for fascists in their comics.
That would make perfect sense if it wasn’t for the signs pointing in other directions: The star on a gear is very reminiscent of communist imagery, the green/orange flag is a reskin of the anarcho-communist flag (yes, there are other variants for other kinds of anarchist, but they’re even less relevant than anarcho-communists), and the naming format (greenist-orangeite) is more reminiscent of “anarcho-communist” than the Nazi formulation of “National Socialist” or the anarcho-nazi formulation of “National Anarchist.” I can only see this being about communists and anarcho-communists from a disgruntled anarchist of some type. Perhaps a solarpunk guy.
The symbolism gave me the same impression (and I was going to argue something about anarcho-communism having nothing to do with bolshevik bullshit), but then I checked the site and the author uses orange for fascism and has positive stuff about communism.
Fair enough, then
The “communism” in anarcho-communism much predates these states.
Anarchists massacre themselves more than communists massacre them by enabling fascists in power, see my homeland Spain in the Spanish civil war. I wish we had had communists instead of Anarchists…
Not sure if a troll or just incredible brainwashed… try to pick a history book some time, because in Spain you had communists, and they LITERALLY decided to fight the anarchists instead of the fascists. The bolsheviks simply decided to outlaw all Spanish socialist organizations (it wasn’t the other way around) and sabotaged the antifascist resistance, and it’s the anarchists that enabled the fascists!? Fuck off mate.
I was used to commies saying the Nazis were going to kill the anarchists in Ukraine eventually anyway, so there was nothing wrong with the Red Army killing them first (after selling them to the Germans in exchange of a train ticket), but this stupid and shameful historical revisionism about the Spanish civil war is new to me, what a fucking deranged cult those tankies.ps: Don’t bother coming back with walls of text. Not gonna read nor reply.
in Spain you had communists, and they LITERALLY decided to fight the anarchists
This is one of those widely repeated things that coincidentally is never backed up by any numerical evidence whatsoever. Bolsheviks, per modern historical analysis, killed a total of less than 20 anarchists in the entire Spanish Civil War, and at least some of those because a spy in Nazi Germany called Harro Schulze-Boysen confirmed a Nazi plot to generate an anarchist insurrection in Barcelona to weaken the Republic’s defenses. You tell me to read a book: well, point me towards a historiographical analysis of the Spanish Civil War pointing out NUMERICALLY HOW MANY anarchists were actually repressed by the communists.
Not gonna read
Then simply tell me: which book can I read that details a numerical analysis of this repression, because I’ve asked several anarchists and never got a response.
